SID: Andrea, this second thing that you said you really want to make sure and drill home to the people that are watching is what you call the heavenly perspective. What does that mean to you?

ANDREA: Let me tell you a story. I was once walking around in our city with a good friend of mine. And three people that are highlighted to us, two boys and one girl. And as we were approaching them, I felt the Holy Spirit tell me that the boy right, to my right hand, he was struggling with his ankle due to an injury he had a couple of weeks ago. So we asked him, and he was like, “Yeah, it’s true. How do you guys know?” And my friend happened to have a word of knowledge about the other boy’s back, which was true as well. So they both, again, asked, “How did you guys know that?” And when we were explaining that we are believers believing that Jesus talks to us and he wants to heal you now, the girl in the middle starts to scream at me saying, “You guys get away with your God. I am an atheist. I don’t want to hear anything more from you guys.” And, Sid, this…

SID: You really pick them don’t you?

ANDREA: Yeah. And this could have been a moment for me to really easily be offended. And I was maybe a little bit, having a girl screaming at me at that, being bitter against the Lord. But then I was asking the Holy Spirit, “Lord, what is it you are doing in her life?” And I suddenly felt the Holy Spirit telling me that he has called her to be a prayer warrior and intercessor. When I was hearing that I was asking, “Why, Holy Spirit, are you telling me these things?” And then I saw a picture of her being a little, little girl always praying interceding believing in God. And then what happened is that her mom got sick. You have cancer, and she died. But she prayed for her mom to the very end believing God could do a miracle.

But because she died, that was the reason she was an atheist. And when I was hearing all that I started to tell her, “Hey, you are angry at God and bitter towards him because you believed that God could heal your mother to the very last second, but it didn’t happen. So she died, and you turned away from the Lord.” And she started to weep, to shake, to tremble, saying everything is true and right on the spot she gave her life back to the Lord asking him for forgiveness. It’s wonderful. But here is the point, and that’s the key. When I was looking at the girl, I saw someone who was angry at God. But when heaven was looking at the same person, heaven saw a prayer warrior.

Paul keeps telling us through the letters he wrote that we are seated in heavenly places with Jesus in order to make us aware that we have access to another reality. Or in Colossians chapter 3 he says, “Since you guys have been raised, being made seated with Jesus in the heavenly places, don’t seek these things which are on the earth. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things on the earth.” And he says that because you will always live from the place you are most aware of. And if we start to seek the face of God in order to see his size. And the more you see his size the more you will start through his size. And you will become prophetic to the degree you see from God’s perspective. Prophetic is nothing else than an invasion from God’s perspective into the now. And that’s really what happened in this very moment. I was seeing something that God was showing me in order to speak what he was saying.

SID: Again, I say this so often to my guests. You operate in a wonderful gift of God. But do you see the people you equip do the same things and even greater than you?

ANDREA: Absolutely. You know, when I’ve traveled the world there are always people who are so hungry just pulling all the things that God has for them down believing they can do the same thing. But it’s going to be the people who will put themselves into situation where these things has to come out, or in any other way they would just look really stupid. But these are the guys who are going to see breakthrough. So it’s not whether or not you have a gift of healing. But Jesus in you surely has it. But it’s about making ourselves available so God can use us at any time, anywhere.

SID: I heard you teaching about, it’s a rigged deal when you go out in the city and start … God’s already … It’s a set up. What do you mean by that?

ANDREA: Ephesians chapter 2 verse 10 says that God has already prepared to work for us, so we can just walk in them. And in the beginning I thought that I was responsible to take Jesus out in order to make him work. But now I realize that God has already been working out there, and that I, as a son, have the privilege to partner with him in whatever it is that he’s already doing. And we as the church, we have spent so much time inviting God to show up in our services that we have missed his invitations to show up in our cities. Because he’s already out there doing the most incredible things, and is waiting for his children to partner with him. Jesus himself said, “My God, my Father, has always been working.”

SID: Tell me about someone that sat under your training and what they are doing today, someone that did not really move in miracles and evangelism in the past.

ANDREA: There’s a younger man. His name is Cecil King. He happens to be my roommate right now. And for several years, he had this deep hunger within him to see the supernatural power of God in this life. So one time he joined me on the streets in order to see how I’m doing these things. And then Sunday he ended up praying for a guy from Russia. And what happened while he was praying for him, this guy from Russia just talked to him for 10 or even 15 minutes, and they were both weeping. And he got hit with the compassion of God, my friend Yakeen. And ever since when he prays for people, he sees how God is moving through him, because compassion is not only the thing that releases the power of God. It’s also the thing that attracts the power of God.

SID: Would you say this prayer with me out loud and mean it to the best of your ability? It’s not an accident you’re watching me right now. It’s not an accident you’re in our audience right now. Repeat this after me. Dear God, out loud.

Audience: Dear God.

SID: I’m a sinner.

Audience: I’m a sinner.

SID: I’m so sorry.

Audience: I’m sorry.

SID: I believe-

Audience: I believe-

SID: … that Jesus died for my sins.

Audience: … that Jesus died for my sins.

SID: And because of his death and resurrection-

Audience: And because of his death and resurrection-

SID: … God remembers my sins no more.

Audience: … God remembers my sins no more.

SID: I’m so clean.

Audience: I’m so clean.

SID: It’s so good to be clean.

Audience: It’s so good to be clean.

SID: And now that I am clean-

Audience: And now that I am clean-

SID: … Jesus, come inside of me.

Audience: … Jesus, come inside of me.

SID: Take over my life.

Audience: Take over my life.

SID: I make you Lord of my life.

Audience: I make you Lord of my life.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: All right. I know this. I know if you look in that camera and pray right now that the same love and the same compassion that is in you would be transferred for whoever wants that, like your roommate. Right now pray that.

ANDREA: Yeah, Father, in Jesus name I pray that the same atmosphere that ended up in my room when I was 17 years old is now going to be released to every person that is watching Sid Roth, It’s Supernatural. Father, I pray that the same fire you have for and released upon the apostles that has been passed on for 2,000 years. It’s just going to be refreshed in a whole other dimension that we have never seen before. And, Lord, just release an impartation of what I have been experiencing over the last 10 years to every viewer, Lord, that my ceiling is becoming their floor and they’re going to see God do the most incredible things through them, Lord.

ANDREA: Thank you so much just for pouring out your love right now, Father. Thank you so much that you are releasing the faithfulness of Abraham, the faith of Moses, and the anointing that Jesus that carried that is now living inside of us. And, Lord, I pray for a supernatural empowering for every believer to step out and do what they were not thinking they were able to do right now in Jesus name that the grace of God would cover and surround them. Thank you, God. In Jesus name I pray that.

SID: Hey, it’s finished.

ANDREA: If you don’t have a gift of healing, that’s totally okay, because the Messiah in you surely has it. So I totally believe 100% that everyone is called to do the supernatural. Jesus commanded his disciples to go out to heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons.

SID: So Andrea is full with the love of God. Then you’re minding your own business and God speaks to you. And he says, “Go to Berlin, Germany and be equipped for what is known as power evangelism.” So you go to Berlin, and tell me what happened.

ANDREA: So in Berlin, the leaders were teaching us some very simple steps on how you can go out and minister to unbelievers. And I just thought, “Okay, if it sounds that easy, I’m just going to do it and try it out.” And we ended up seeing God do the most incredible things, signs and wonders, deaf ears that opened up.

SID: Tell me the first miracle that you operated in in the streets ever after that training.

ANDREA: So I went to the skate park, because I figured there were going to be a lot of people. And I saw this young girl having a brace around her arm. And I approached her telling her that I believe God still heals, and [asking] if I was able to pray for her. And surprisingly she said, yes, she would love to receive prayer. But the guy next to her started scream around the park saying, “You guys need all to come and watch this, because this young man claims to believe that God still heals today.”

SID: That’s his first time.

ANDREA: Yes.

SID: How would you have liked that? I mean, that wasn’t after he’s a pro. I mean, put yourself in that situation. Go ahead.

ANDREA: So I ended up having an audience of non-believers seeing me the first time praying for someone to be healed. And I prayed a very short prayer, but it was a prayer that came from my heart, because I believe if you pray from your whole heart, the prayer will always find the heart of God as well. So after short prayer, I asked her to move around her wrist. And she said, “Oh, my goodness. There is no pain at all.” And she ended up taking off the brace, shaking her hand declaring to everyone who was there, “I’m healed. I’m healed.”

SID: How did the crowd react?

ANDREA: They were absolutely confused, but we ended up having had the privilege to pray for more people, obviously. That was beautiful.

SID: Today Andrea travels the world equipping believers to do exactly what he does. That’s his passion, because that is the kingdom of God. Now, I asked you on the phone. I said, “If there were two truths for the TV show for you to talk about,” you told me the first one that people don’t understand the word authority. Explain what authority means to you.

ANDREA: It’s very important. In Matthew chapter 28 Jesus walks up to his 11 remaining disciples and says, “All authority on heaven and on earth have been given to me.” And Jesus makes that statement still as the Son of Man, depending on the Holy Spirit or as our older brother saying he’ll receive an inheritance of the Father, so we as sons and daughters could be born into the family of God as co-heirs, which tells me Jesus says, “Hey, guys, I just received a bigger measure of authority than I had before.” It’s an upgrade. And now we all have access to the same authority Jesus received after he was resurrected from the dead, which tells me right now we all have access to a bigger measure of authority that Jesus himself had when he was walking on earth. And that’s a ridiculous thought until you read John chapter 14:12 where it says that those who believe will do the same works as Jesus did and even greater works will be done. So, yeah.

SID: Yeah. Out of curiosity, what do you think I know what the same works were. You know what the same works, the blind could see, the deaf could hear, those that couldn’t speak could speak, the lame could walk, the dead were raised. Those are the same. But he’s saying greater. What do you think that greater was?

ANDREA: I believe the church is coming into a place where we are going to start to think way bigger, because he also says in the same chapter, Matthew 28, “Go out disciple all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” and so on. And I think many believers read through that scripture thinking, “Ooh, we are supposed to go into the nations in order to disciple individuals, but that’s not what Jesus is saying. He is saying, “Go out to the world in order to disciple whole nations, baptizing them in the Holy Spirit. He’s still talking about the nation. So, Sid, how would it look like to have the whole United States baptized in the Holy Spirit in one day.

SID: That is what he said. So pick a nation.

ANDREA: Absolutely.

SID: And you pray that nation. Why does that sound so impossible? God says all things are possible. I like that. You know why? Because there’s greater glory that is about ready to invade the whole world. You will be equipped to do all things that Jesus did and even greater. But there’s a second revelation, and this is outrageously good. I mean, it really is. It’s called look at everything through the heavenly perspective. Be right back.

SID:  Well, I don’t know what’s going on here, but I do know what’s going on there. And I’m going to tell you something. I believe that many of you, your destinies will be changed. Your genetics will be changed. Your DNA is going to be changed. I’m going to ask Dr. Francis Myles to share what God has shown him so that you can never have to look back at the stuff you’ve dealt with before.

AUDIENCE:  [CLAPS]

FRANCIS:   Hallelujah! We’re ready to do teachings, to start out with testimonies, but I feel that of the Lord just to give you a couple of things– just a couple of testimonies that have happened ever since the Lord give us this technology of how to deal with the insidious technology of devils that is attached to the genetics of the people of God. Where I was in Paducah, Kentucky doing the School of Ministry at Faith Center in Paducah, Kentucky, and [joking] for those that don’t know it’s in America. C’mon somebody, Amen? [Audience laughs] Sound[s] African in Paducah, you know, it’s in America. And there was a woman who had been attending for the week for the three days School of Ministry at the she had what you call masticular [muscular] dystrophies– and she was walking with a cane like this and whenever she sat on the chair she sat back like this– she couldn’t because all the muscles had kind of come together– and her husband did his best to try to make her feel comfortable, but this woman was determined to come to the School of Ministry. And then on a Friday night, the day before the last day which was a Saturday, the healing anointing came and I felt like, Oh, God wants to heal people and immediately God began to heal people. And when I went to pray for her so she can get healed the Spirit said to me, ‘Stop!’ And I said, ‘Lord, I want to pray for her.’ And he says, ‘No, you can’t, not today, tomorrow.’ He says because her problem is not physical it’s genetic. He said tomorrow when you deal with the genetics, I’ll heal her in front of everybody. But you’ve got to change the genetic inheritance ’cause if you don’t change the genetic inheritance then the deliverance would be temporary at best. And so I said, ‘Madam, tomorrow, God is going to heal you when you jump the prophetic bloodline.’ I said, ‘You don’t understand what that means but by tomorrow– we’ll bring clarity to what God is saying.’ So she came up the following day and in front there was about 250 people in the school and when it was time I taught like I’m about to teach you in a few minutes,         and they brought her husband and somebody else brought her in front of this prophetic bloodline that we had put in front of everybody, and then I took them through the prayer of denouncing her allegiance to the lineage of ancestors           and accepting the prophetic flawless bloodline of Yeshua, and then we said, ‘JUMP!’ About 200 people jumped and when she jumped– all of a sudden when she jumped in about 30 seconds the power of God came upon her and she started doing ballet dancing for 30 minutes.

AUDIENCE:  [CLAPPING AND PRAISING]

FRANCIS:  So now you have the pastor is crying, the kids are crying, husband is crying, and I feel like crying too, you know, except I’m African, we don’t cry too much. [He and audience laughs]. But it was amazing to see this happen. I mean it was amazing. And then when it was over, the pastor– he was besides himself. He said, ‘You’ve got to tell her, ’cause she was a member of his church for years.’ He said, ‘What happened?’ She said, ‘When I jumped the line the Messiah was standing, waiting for me.

AUDIENCE:  [REACTS WITH AWE]

[The woman continued] So when I jumped– the Messiah was in front of me, and He smiled and He said, ‘You have always wanted to dance. Let’s do it right now.’ [The pastor said], ‘You kept going like this for 30 minutes oblivious of everybody.’ She said, ‘I kept going like this because the Lord was spinning me, and then He’s laughing and He’s spinning me. You know, completely.’ –By Sunday morning when I was preaching, she was right there and–  c’mon– That’s what happened just jumping the prophetic bloodline.  And then we had another woman from Canada– she had a business meeting in Texas and– one of the business people who had been through one of the meetings and got a radical transformation through this, kind of whispered about I was there, it was not supposed to be a conference, it was a business meeting– and all of a sudden all the business people said, ‘We– are all Christians, yeah, though we’re business people, it’s a business meeting but we heard about this generational stuff. Do you mind if we just stop this business meeting for 20 minutes so we can jump the line?

AUDIENCE:   [REACTS]

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS)

SID:  Love it. You shall know, have intimacy with the truth, the word of God, and the truth will do exactly what she prophesied. Will set you free. The truth will set you free. But this has been a special time. This has been a special time.

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPPING)

SID:  This is Carol Howell. And Carol how many years have you been an intercessor for this ministry?

CAROL:  Hallelujah! Before the meeting the Lord instructed me to go 12 times around this place, and he said, he said “government,” and today the government of the word of God has been sent forth and is going out throughout the earth. The government is being set forth in this new day. It is God’s government. It’s kingdom time!

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS)

SID:  Okay, I can see we’ve– by the way we’ve never opened this up to prophecy before. This IS a new day. It’s not that I’m negative towards it, it’s just we’ve had too many other things going on. But I like these prophetic words.

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS)

WOMAN #4:  Praise God! The Lord wants you to know how MUCH He loves you. How MUCH He cares about you. Everything about you. Even today as I’m sitting back there, I just saw His arms coming around, coming around and just holding you. His word says perfect love casts out all fear.  And fear, one of the by-products is sickness and disease.  So He’s already cast it out. And all you have to say is “Lord, I believe I have received.” Take a deep breath. I saw not only hearts being healed, but circulatory systems being healed. I saw swelling in legs going down, varicose veins being touched, even skin lesions being healed all because of His perfect love, because He loves you. Take it.

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS)

SID:  Let me just mention something before I pray for you. This new mentoring kit is a baby. It’s new. Yet it’s already growing. I have ideas for it next year that we’ve going to add to the kit. –I’ll tell just tell you one of the thoughts I had, it was actually yesterday. Anyone of you get “tweets?” Raise your hands if you get tweets. Or do the rest of you have to learn how to do that? (audience laughs) Here’s the thought that I had–if you have a computer, get one of your grandchildren and they’ll show you how to tweet– (audience laughs) I’m going to give you one scripture, not every day, one scripture every week. And I want you to think about that all week, my whole staff is going to have that same scripture, I want you to say it out loud. I want you to meditate on it, I want you to chew on it. Do you realize that one word from God can change your destiny? One word from God! That’s all it takes. So rather than learn a hundred and one [words] every day and memorize it and not really get it here, get it here. What if you had one scripture every week knowing our staff is doing the same thing you’re doing. And meditating on that ‘til it becomes part of you. ‘til the word becomes flesh.  Maybe we’ll put it on the web page if you don’t want to tweet (laughs). If you can find a web page… But I want you to do it with us. I really have such a passion to mentor you to stop being a couch potato, to mentor you to stop being a spectator, to mentor you to do the works of Jesus! That’s what He wants right now more than anything! And whether you know it or not, you could be parachuted into any third world country in the world and have food for them to feast on. You know you’ve been sitting on a bench so long you don’t know what you’re capable of. But eye has not seen and ear has not heard all that God has in store for you. Won’t you stand up?

SID:  The Lord is blessing you, right now. The Lord is keeping you, right now. The Lord, if you could only see, He’s smiling upon you, right now. He’s smiling upon YOU, YOU, not someone else. Not some superstar. You, you are His workmanship created in His image for good works! The Lord is surrounding you with His favor, right now, right this second, you’re being surrounded with His favor, in fact the Lord is gifting you, He’s gifting you right now, just receive, receive from heaven. He’s gifting you right now. The Lord is giving you His Shalom, which means completeness. His completeness in your spirit, in your soul, and in your body right now, in the name that is above every circumstance that the devil’s throwing at you, every mistake you’ve ever made in the name that is above all of that junk. It’s not this world, it’s a name from out of this world that has invaded you. The name [is] Yeshua ha Mashiach, Tsidekenu, Jesus our Messiah, our Righteousness. And all God’s people said an ancient word that they just religiously say, but they don’t even know what it means. It means “so be it!” Amen!

SID: Now, most of you have probably heard of Kent Henry. He just informed me he’s done 60 worship albums and the thing you’ve done for 42 years, your passion is to usher believers into the presence of God. I have to believe that’s your passion too. You want to be in the presence of God. I’m going to take you back. You’ve been doing this for 42 years but at 19, you’re an athlete, you’re a rock musician, you must have thought the world was your oyster. I mean, everything was going right for you but you were depressed.

KENT: Right. After being a high level athlete and a lead singer in a band at 15 and half, depression came to my house. I thought I was king of the world but Jesus saved my life. Four years later some people mentioned Jesus to me, it was a family that I knew, I read a Four Spiritual Laws tract, gave my life to Jesus. I’ve never looked back. He took depression right off of me and I’ve been a happy camper ever since. It’s been very powerful.

SID: But you actually saw him at 19? What happened?

KENT: I’m glad you asked because my mom was a beautician for 42 years and I had been playing ice hockey, I had long hair. I was drying my hair late at night in her beauty shop with my, drying my long hair and I decided to look at the Four Spiritual Laws tract and I read it and threw it down. Something said pick it up again. I read it, God loves you, there’s a gap, receive Jesus. So I said, “Jesus, I don’t even know if you’re real but I’m asking you come into my life.” Sid, I tell you, out of the mirror in my mom’s beauty shop he appeared and stood in front of me and said, “You are my son, I love you.” I was changed. I could not believe this supernatural experience. That’s what he wants to do for anybody that will call on his name.

SID: Now, there’s a long time but I always ask this question. What did he look like?

KENT: Well, he had a white robe on. He had the gold sash, or belt and stuff and brown hair. But the thing is, he was speaking to me not with mouth but with his eyes. It was like so wild because I didn’t expect that to happen. It was like the warm grace of God embraced me. I felt like, he didn’t actually do this but I felt like I was taken into his arms and held as a son. It was beautiful.

SID: Now, when you got filled with the spirit and given a prayer language, I mean, a nice Baptist wasn’t enough, you had a Baptist and Catholic praying for you. Here you get the best of all worlds. Of course, you probably became a believer about the time I did.

KENT: Right.

SID: The only ones that were moving in the spirit were the Catholic charismatics at that time.

KENT: Yeah.

SID: They prayed for you and what was your experience?

KENT: Well, I was at a Newman House Center on the campus of the University of Missouri, St. Louis and I prayed during the mass, people that are from a Catholic background, for petitions. I prayed for anybody seeking the gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially speaking in tongues. Boy, it got really quiet. It was a folk mass but then a spirit filled Baptist guy named Steve and a spirit filled young lady, Maggie, came up to me after the mass and said, “Were you the one asking about the Holy Spirit?” I said, “Yes.” They said, “We can pray and you can be filled with the Holy Spirit.” I started taking my leather jacket off, I was on a motorcycle back in the day, and they said, “Well, we got to down in the basement.” I said, “Great. If the Holy Spirit’s in basement,” you know how these stories go. We went down there and I was listening to them praying with their prayer language and I was so amazed. I thought they were foreign exchange students or something because they were praying. And then, Steve bends down and goes, “Kent, stop listening to us and look at the Lord.” When I did, Holy Spirit filled me up. It was like a fresh oil, an oil came over me. I started praying in the Spirit.

SID: Did you realize when you said that, I felt the presence of God. I imagine something like you felt the presence of God.

KENT: It’s real.

SID: When you said that, it just, it like came down. Go ahead.

KENT: It’s real. Well, and then that warm oil. I started praying the Spirit and it was just so fluid I thought, “This is truly amazing.” There was a Baptist lady who was spirit-filled, I happen to call her. She says, “Kent, what tongues is is a prayer language.” I want to remind our viewers today, Sid, tongues is a prayer language that when you don’t know what to pray. I have used it every day since. I’m at the grocery story, Sid, I’m getting the peanut butter and the Oreos in the health food aisle, not really, but I pray in the Spirit and sometimes people overhear me and they just think I’m a foreigner. This is not my home, we’re going to be with the Lord one day, isn’t it cool? I really want to have people think about going back, power up in your prayer language again.

SID: Within a year after that experience, you became a worship leader and 5000, listen to this, 5000 young people were saved, filled with the spirit, and radical. You would have meeting once a week, something like 1550 to 2000, what would you say was the attraction of these young people? Young people in those numbers don’t go to something.

KENT: Here it comes. So ’74, ’75 and ’76, I’m only … by the way, I was Spirit-filled Easter night of 1974, in April. They asked me to lead worship two months later. So two and half years after that, that’s when all those kids got saved. We had 1500 every Saturday night from 7:00 to 10:30, think about the length of the meeting.

KENT: Here’s what it was, Sid. It was winds of the Spirit and waves of worship. It was irresistible because our Jesus is irresistible. The kids were coming out of sleeping with their girlfriend and sin and drugs and everything else. They came in and got saved and Spirit-filled. It just ran for almost over three years that we saw that happen. I believe it was the winds of the Holy Spirit effectively just transforming hearts and then it was the waves of worship.

KENT: We knew … somehow, Sid, the Lord said, “I’m going to show you about worship.” I remember I was leading worship, I’m a guitar player first, a piano second, I was leading worship and I turn around I said, “Let the band play.” They took off playing and stuff and I went, “Oh, my God. I hope that’s legal in church.” I thought, “are you?” And then, I found the words zamar, the seven Hebrew words for praise is to play unto his power. And there you have it, Sid. We just kept doing that Saturday night after Saturday night and—

SID: It was an atmospheric thing. Could they feel the difference?

KENT: That’s the super point about all of it. When you see his presence released, atmospheric change is automatic and it becomes transformational. You cannot stay the same and be in his presence on that level.

SID: When we come back, 1983. How would you like this to happen to you? 1983, he finds out his future. He’s going to be worshiping in the glory, miracles are going to break out, and it’s starting to happen now. We’ll be right back.

GUILLERMO:  Say it louder please?

AUDIENCE:  Activation!

GUILLERMO:  Activation means when something comes alive in you that was dormant. And the supernatural was within you when you [were] born again. The moment you were born again the supernatural was with you, in you, but religion taught you something else and moved you from the supernatural. So I will activate the power in you. Can I hear an “amen”?

AUDIENCE:  AMEN!

GUILLERMO:  Number 2, Number 2, the supernatural. Number 2. There’s the word called “impartation.” Say it with me, “impartation.”

AUDIENCE:  IMPARTATION!

GUILLERMO:  Impartation is, the word impartation,  Romans 1:11 says, Paul says: I will impart to you. The word impart means to share virtue. So what I will do now is I will activate what you have: gifts, revelation, gifts of the spirit, the supernatural. Number 2, I will impart what I have. So when somebody shares something [they’re] saying I give you something that you didn’t have. Oh my God, I am so excited! Oh — You must be willing to receive what I have. And that is share a virtue. And how would you know it? Well, whenever you go back and pray for people, now I’m going to put you to pray for the sick and you will say, “I didn’t have that before and now I feel power came out of me.” So impartation came, you were activated in the gifts of the spirit in the supernatural, you were activated in the supernatural but also you received a virtue that you didn’t have. Can I hear an “amen?”

AUDIENCE:  Amen!

GUILLERMO:  So I will do those two things. Can we pray together? Okay, lift your hands towards Jesus. Are you hungry for the supernatural?

AUDIENCE:  Yes!

GUILLERMO:  Okay, to move in the supernatural you must be hungry. You must be hungry. If you’re not hungry, God cannot impose something that you don’t want. You must be crying out in the spirit. Lift your hands and say [AS AUDIENCE REPEATS AFTER GUILLERMO AFTER EACH PHRASE]: Father; in the name of Jesus; I am born again; and the moment I was born again; I was born from above; from heaven; from the kingdom of God; so it’s normal; the supernatural for me; the supernatural is normal; right now, Lord; forgive me; say forgive me; I gave place to religion; and the supernatural; was removed from me; Right now; I ask You; to activate me; again; Lord; I receive; a fresh impartation; I receive; a fresh impartation; in Jesus name; right now; right now; right now! There you go, there you go, pray in the Holy Ghost, pray in the Holy Ghost, lift your hands, pray in the Holy Ghost! (Guillermo prays): Father, in the name of Jesus right now I activate the gifts, I activate the supernatural, I activate any gifts in every person in this building, I activate the supernatural, I activate the people to do miracles, signs and wonders, to move, to cast out demons, to prophesy, to intercede, any gifts that was dormant in them at the count of three, they being activated now. One, two, three, NOW!  There you go. Receive, receive, receive, receive, receive! Father, I impart, I share virtue. Oh, what I have, right now, what I have I activate them and now I impart to them. The anointing is in my mouth and right now I impart to them. When I count to three receive the impartation and respond to it. One two, three, NOW! There you go. Keep praying in the Holy Ghost (praying in tongues), lift your hands, keep, keep , keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost. There’s a fresh, there’s a fresh impartation, but I want you to cry out to God, I want you to cry out to God, “God I want it,” “God, I want it,” “I want it,” “I want it,” “I want it.” Frank, help me, please.

SID:  Okay, one last question.

QUESTIONER #9:  Okay. As we surely know the God of Israel trumps the enemy and we surely are in the Days of Noah, but even now we don’t know who’s genetically pure and who’s not, we know that, that in the final analysis in Malachi, it says that the spirit of Elijah would come, the Law of Moses would be exalted, and do you believe that God has, just like the Tetra, the four blood moons on the feast days and you know, Pesach and Sukkot and all these things, do you perceive that there’s a wondrous— there’s a wondrous mystery that’s going to be revealed in the, in the final days and possibly the spirit of Elijah whose going to proclaim the coming of the Lamb by dwelling in someone in these last days?

CRIS:  You know, I would expect so. Like you said, in the ending of Malachi it tells us to expect that. Now John the Baptist was a “type” of this final instance of Elijah, but I don’t think he was the final one. So I think we should expect something like that to occur, and relatively soon.

SID:  Last question, really last question! Okay.

QUESTIONER #10:  I’m going to move off theology for a minute. My understanding is the Vatican telescope is also, in Arizona, is somehow working with the University of Arizona. Certainly there’s these university professors or secular astronomers. Do they know about this and what do they think about this?

TOM:  Do they know about the prophecy of the popes?

QUESTIONER #10:  No. I mean do they know that the Vatican is perhaps watching something particular that’s coming that may have some supernatural impact? Is, is, do they understand a supernatural agenda going along?

CRIS:  Well, you know what’s really astounding, is that this whole observatory complex on top of Mount Graham in Arizona was started by the University of Arizona. It’s really the Miralab there that pioneered a new technology that got all this going. But one of the professors was the head of the Vatican Observatory Research Group. The acronym is VORG, which I kind of have fun with in the book a little bit. But uh, George Coinye was the leader of the VORG, was also an astronomy professor at the University of Arizona. Now literally a month before the VATT, the VATT [Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope] went on line he was giving interviews in the media. And there’s an article and I cited it in our book, in the London Telegraph, a conservative newspaper, that says “Vatican sets evangelical sights on the heavens.” And they interviewed him and he literally said that they were teaming up with NASA to find extraterrestrials and baptize them into the Catholic Church. I mean I’m not making this up. And this is what he said, and he said it like with a straight face, the article it wasn’t, didn’t come across tongue in cheek. And there was a lot of the Indians and the people in Arizona were upset about the whole thing. They didn’t want them up there anyway. And when this all came out there was a big controversy, this was like 1993. And, so one of the people in the Mount Graham coalition called the NASA and said, “Was this true, what this Jesuit is saying that he’s teaming up with NASA?” And they said, “No, we don’t have any contact with them.” So NASA denied it completely. But then since 1993 we’ve seen 4 or 5 of these Jesuit astronomers come out in the media, give interviews where they’ve talked about baptizing extraterrestrials. —go to Google when you get home and type—

SID:  Did you, did I hear what you said? Did you hear that? Baptizing aliens?

CRIS:  Just Google that when you get home, put “baptize extraterrestrial” and Google. Hit search and you’ll see just hundreds of articles will pop up and there’ll be interviews with various Jesuits talking about that.

TOM:  But they seem to use that doctrine to introduce people to the idea and now it has accelerated to a completely different spooky level. What they’re talking about now is WAY more frightening than the idea that we’re going to baptize an alien.

SID:  What are they talking about in a couple of sentences? Summarize.

TOM:  That it’s going to also include a new doctrine and actually it’s going to be the aliens baptizing us, and that to not believe their gospel will be heresy because it puts limits on God’s creative ability and we know we’re fallen, they may not be.

SID:  Did you like our guests?

SANDY:  And we see this actually today recurring in what is called “Fulfillment Theology,” which is a relatively new form of Replacement Theology.

SID: Explain what that is.

SANDY:  Fulfillment Theology takes Matthew, chapter 5, verse 17, where Jesus says that He’s come to fulfill the Law as its starting point, and proclaims that all of the prophetic promises to Israel, all of God’s future plans are, in fact, not future. They have all been totally fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ himself.

SID:  So you, but—in order to come up with that, you have to throw out so many prophecies in the Bible, you have to say the Bible isn’t literal. Do they say that?

SANDY:  Yes.

SID: Because you have to say that, otherwise what are you going to do with Romans [chapter] 9, 10 and 11?

SANDY:  Well I can tell you what I’ve read some of them do with it. Some—a leading scholar in one of the top highly regarded seminaries in the United States writes that the Apostle Paul in Romans 9 through 11 was merely venting his unresolved emotions, it is not inspired.

SID:  That’s sad.

SANDY:  Well, what, and again we’re talking, Sid, not just, you know, a stray fringe, but we’re talking academics teaching in evangelical seminaries, born again students, you know young people in their twenties, who are being taught that portions of the scriptures, particularly the Old Testament are not the inspired Word of God but are either Jewish myths and fables, or they’re to be interpreted as the personal expressions of the author and not the inspired Word of Father, Creator God himself.

SID:  You know I am bumping into so many variations of what you’re describing. I’m bumping into people that literally say the Book of Revelation was already finished and we, we shouldn’t be reading the Book of Revelation right now. What would you say?

SANDY:  Well, I would say we should. (laughs) I think that it, you know, it’s a great ending. Jesus, Yeshua comes back. But there are some people who adhere to a teaching that states that all of the prophecies pertaining to Israel or all of the prophecies in general, all of them, have already been fulfilled. They did literally come to pass some people will say, but they came to pass thousands of years ago. And so there’s no future hope for Israel’s restoration in the scriptures, they would say.

SID:  Except for one thing. John wrote this after they say it was all fulfilled in 70 A.D., which kind of puts a crunch to that, that theology. What about this? I know you personally have a heart for the Arabs, the Palestinians. I know this. What, but there are so many Christians that are developing this heart for the Palestinians they are coming up with a whole Palestinian theology. What is that?

SANDY:  Well, there’s a new theology that sometimes is called “Christian Palestinianism” which seeks specifically to counter “Christian Zionism.” And that’s, that’s not my opinion. I mean that’s, that’s made public on websites and in writings from scholarly treatises down to social media. Christian Palestinian is a way of—developing a new form of replacement theology that doesn’t have to be called replacement theology because replacement theology, as you may know, has become politically incorrect, even within the church. And so there’s a new theology now called Christian Palestinian. It’s really a form of Fulfillment Theology, and it’s specifically—

SID:  You know it sounds good, you know the title—but it’s not!

SANDY:  Well it’s not good because it’s extremely anti-Israel and it denies any covenant basis for Israel’s existence today as a Jewish nation under God. It completely disclaims that there’s any future or even present covenant purpose for Israel to exist. And it utilizes fulfillment theology. It utilizes some other errors that have come in and out of the church. But it’s gaining fast in popularity. It’s going around the world.

PERRY:  All right. In the time of the Temple, most of you know this, this is a 7 branch candlestick six foot tall made of 24-carat gold called the “Menorah.” And it had to be a refreshing with oil every morning. But in the refreshing of the oil I found out, I think Edersheim the author Edersheim, is the one that wrote about this, he has all the documentation on it, I believe it was him. But he said when the, when the High Priest went to clean the Menorah he would cl— he would snuff out the five lights to, to put a new wick in and new oil in 5 branches but he left 2 burning. Now stay with me “cause I’m going to show you something. He left two burning. And then he would use these 2 to relight these and then he would go and put fresh oil and wicks in the last 2. But why’d he leave 2 burning? Why’d he leave the, the “servant branch” burning? Why’d he clean four but the two far in—? Because in the Book of Revelation there are 7 churches. Those 7 churches are the 7 candlesticks. Now you ready for this? Five of them their light was going out and Jesus rebuked  and two of them He said good things about!

AUDIENCE:  Wow. That’s something.

PERRY:  Now how do you like that for a Temple parallel from the Book of Revelation? You see what I’m saying? Seven branches. Five go out and have to be cleaned, cleaned up! New oil! And five messages to those churches “Your light’s going out.” You’re letting— you know you’re being seduced. He rebuked five of them and let them have it! But Philadelphia, and there was another one He said something good about, so was it Smyrna, I think he said something good about, two of them He said something good about. Meaning two of the lights were burning bright and five were going out. Exactly what was happening in the Temple every day! All right? Now another thing, and I got to, I got to, I got to get into this and this gets for some Christian people that don’t understand the culture of that day, some believers they don’t quite understand it when you talk about this because they say “that sounds a little bit like astrology.” There’s a difference between Christian astronomy and astrology because astrology says that the stars determine your outcome of life which is total hokey, which is forbidden in the Torah and forbidden by God. Christian astronomy is understanding the signs. What did Jesus say? Jesus said “there going to be signs in the sun, moon and stars.” Well if there is than we’d better understand the sun, moon and stars a little bit to understand what the signs are! All right. Now saying, having said that, Christ says, talks about in my right hand there were seven stars. Remember that? And you got seven pastors of 7 churches. Now I always, this always, this always bugged me, you say “Why does he put 7 stars in his hand? There must be something in space that has “7” in it. Oh, did I ever find out what it was! Anybody want to hear?

AUDIENCE: YES!

PERRY:  Now you going to love this. If you haven’t whooped and hollered, shouted, run, keep your shoes off, you’re about to, okay?

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

PERRY:  Because this, this, this is really amazing! In the universe is a constellation called the Pleiades. The Pleiades has one star and the Arabs and early Jews said it was the center of the universe. One star. A bright star! Remember Jesus [name is also] “The Bright and Morning Star.” Singular, a star. But that bright star is surrounded by 7 stars called “The Seven Sisters.” The word “church” in Greek is “ecclesia” and it’s feminine, and not masculine. Now that’s interesting “cause in His hand is 7 stars representing the pastors and the churches, you know the candlesticks and the churches, pastors. But here’s where it really gets more interesting. The Pleiades in the heavens is in the neck of a constellation called “Taurus the Bull.” An ox was an offering for the High Priest.

AUDIENCE:      Oh, Wow.

Perry: Now this is why, this verse in Matthew 24 is one of the reasons why that you have people such as “preterists” who always telling us “Wait a minute, it all had to happen in a generation.” Now here’s what they don’t understand. In Acts, chapter 2, Peter talks about this, and I like the way it’s translated in the King James because it does, it does an accurate translation in both Joel 2 and Acts 2. In Acts chapter 2 Peter says: “It shall come to pass IN the last days I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh. And you know where he’s quoting? He’s quoted from Joel chapter 2. The only thing is if you go to Joel chapter 2 it reads almost exactly the way Peter quoted it except for one phrase. Joel said: “It shall come to pass AFTERWARDS I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh.” Joel did not say “last days.” You can look at it in the Hebrew. “Afterwards.” But Peter talks about “the last days.” Now this brings me to a thought that’s very important. There would be two outpourings of the Spirit. One that Peter talked about and he said it’s “the last days.” What’d he mean by the “last days?” Well, you got to remember something. Jesus had already told the Jews in Matthew chapter 23 destruction was coming in a generation. He said, “All of this will come upon this generation.” Remember that? So He warned them destruction was coming. Then He warned them in Matthew 24 the Temple would be destroyed. And they knew it would be in a generation. Why do you think in the Book of Acts, it wasn’t happening anywhere else, it was not happening in Antioch, it was not happening in Alexandria.  Why were the Jewish people in Jerusalem selling their property? Why was it that Ananias and Sapphira sold their property and were supposed to distribute the money to the poor, they kept part of it back? Why was Barnabus, a businessman selling his property? And here’s the answer. Would you sell your property if you were told that the city you live in in forty years, a real person of God, a real, an angel came, and said in forty years everything’s going to be destroyed would you just wait ‘til the 39th year and try to get out? No, you would say well let’s go somewhere where it’s safer. The Jewish people, the believers in Israel in the Book of Acts are selling their property in Jerusalem because they know destruction’s coming and they’re getting out while the getting’s good. And they’re taking their money to help the poor people. And this is why before the destruction in 70 A.D. according to Philip Schaff “History of the Christian Church” a whole group of Christians fled the city of Jerusalem and got out before the destruction and went to the city of Pella, which is in Jordan, I think Sid probably has visited that at some point, and there they received asylum from Herod, from one of the, from one of the leaders, let me say it that way, they received asylum from him, and they built a Christian community and when Jerusalem was burning in 70 A.D. and then the  Jews were being slaughtered on the Temple mount the Christians who listened to the words of Jesus had already fled the city and had gone over— now, let me say, this is the point I want to make: When Peter said it’ll come to pass “in the last days” he knew the words of Jesus. He knew they had a generation to get everything done. And he knew that it was going to be the last days for Israel, the last days for the Temple, and the last days for the Jewish people. But go to Joel, he quoted from the Book of Joel, but go to Joel where it says “It shall come to pass afterwards, saith God, I’ll pour out my spirit upon all flesh.” After what? Here’s your whole key. The book of Joel is the restoration of Israel as a nation. The Book of Joel talks about the years that the locust and the cankerworm and the  palmerworm have eaten, and God’s going to restore it and sons and daughters are going to prophesy. Here’s my point and this clears up the whole controversy about when Jesus said “this generation shall not pass ‘til all these things are fulfilled. He’s talking to two generations.