LARRY: Welcome back to “Something More”. I’m Larry Sparks and with my guest Adam Thompson here. I believe the Lord wants us to take this last segment to really activate you because we’ve been talking about this concept of living in two realms at one time. And you might be thinking, “What does that look like practically fleshed out in my everyday life?” Here’s the deal. God has power. God has solutions. God has wisdom. God has, strategy. God has a lot of things that are readily available. You and I were talking about before this show, so many of us sometimes approach God in this begging posture and God does not want you to beg. Heaven has been open for 2000 years, since the day of Pentecost; it’s a matter of you accessing what is your spiritual inheritance. And I believe part of that spiritual inheritance is your access to all of that which is in the heavenly realm. So what I want to talk about briefly in this segment is what does it mean…because so many people say, “Well that person is too heavenly minded to be of earthly good”. That’s an expression that people use. I actually believe if we are appropriately heavenly minded, we will be very earthly good because God wants to give wisdom, and strategy, and invention, and innovation. He wants to entrust that to you. So you were talking about how out of a dream interpretation somebody had a real big breakthrough just in their business. Can you share that testimony?

ADAM: Yeah. Well, initially this gentleman, uh before he got saved, born again, he was a drug addict living in a car. And he got born again, he got into the church system and you know, he still wasn’t one hundred percent satisfied with where he was at. His life was sort of in limbo, but he you know, the grace of God’s on his life. It’s one thing to have the grace of God on, your life. It’s amazing, the grace of God is incredible. But to fulfill the destiny comes with a price. So the grace of God’s free; it’s completely free. Salvation’s free, but the destiny, to walk out God’s destiny that he has for you, can come with a price. So he had this dream that he brought to Adrian and myself, and this one dream, this is going back about eight years ago, and one dream interpretation made him make a decision to go into this partnership, business partnership. And he was indecisive at that stage and when he had the dream interpretation, we released it, we prayed for him, he made a decision to go into business digging trenches with an excavator. And he uh, basically a long story short, his business grew and went from strength to strength, and he was turning over four million dollars a month.

LARRY: Wow! Wow.

ADAM: And he was really…he was making a lot of money and became a great success because of one dream interpretation. And he basically came to a place where he had this revelation of what it is to be seated in heavenly places and how to cultivate the kingdom from that realm. And actually faith comes from hearing the Word, but also, faith without deeds is dead. So he had to respond to what God gave him and had to act upon it. And through that action and through obviously hard work too, he’s now recently retired. He sold the business and God has blessed him financially.

LARRY: Yeah, and well it’s such a practical example of how God wants to do this because as soon as you said that, I thought about 1 Corinthians 14, where Paul says to earnestly desire the gifts of the Spirit. And that’s our word, as we get ready to wind up here, and I’m going to have Adam just minister and we’re going to go as the Holy Spirit directs us. I felt like the Lord wanted you to know, because you’re probably asking the question, “Okay, this all sounds great. How do I do it? What’s like, the next practical step?” I sense the Lord was saying to you, 1 Corinthians 14:1, earnestly desire; like go after, pursue the gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy, because, prophecy, I believe, connects you with the power, the wisdom and the strategy of the age to come. And by the way, prophesy, dream interpretation, the revelatory realm, that is not just for the church world, as Adam was talking about, that is for the marketplace, that’s for the medical field, that’s for media. That’s for wherever God has called and stationed and positioned you. So, I sense that that was the thing that the Lord wanted me to say to you, is earnestly desire, pray for, ask for, say, “God, I ask for the gift of prophecy. I ask to be able to connect with the heavenly realm so that You would open this revelatory realm to me where I’d be able to start receiving strategies and ideas.” Adam, could you just minister to folks? And what happens…what practical things can happen to people in their everyday lives where you know, when God opens up that realm to them?

SID: I tell you what, there is so much more I want to cover with David. I mean, he is literally living what the Bible says we all should live. Now, David, seven organs quit in one afternoon. You died. Did you die twice at that time?

DAVID: I did.

SID: You died twice. If you hadn’t trained your family, as I said earlier, you wouldn’t be here right now.

DAVID: That’s a true statement.

SID: What happened?

DAVID: I was out in the village just doing my job. My job is heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, and cleanse the lepers because freely we have been given, freely we give. And I believe that. And so I’m doing my job, and my son was explaining to me some of the problems we have in the work. At that moment is when heaven revealed to me that my hedge of protection was lowered and that hell was coming. And my son immediately, he’s a great man of God, he immediately began to tell me Bible verses, protection verses, healing verses. That’s what he should do.

DAVID: And I just calmed him down, “Son, listen. I don’t why this is going to happen, but it’s got to happen. In Jesus’ name we’ll make it through it.” Because what you need to understand is in the morning I’m healthy. In the morning I’m going on a horse ride for 14 days, preaching three times a day.

SID: That’s healthy.

DAVID: So I’m not sick. And then it hit me, and life was taken from me. I went blind, deaf, cardiac arrest, lungs quit, liver quit, kidneys … Everything quit. And on the way home is when death came. And I saw this light, and so I was walking toward the light. I was leaving. And then I start hearing in my ear, like way away from me, my son-in-law speaking to me, but nearly as he was right here in my ear hollering and screaming, but it sounded like it was way off from me. And he called me back. And I turned around and went back.

DAVID: And I came back to life the second time. And the next thing I know, I couldn’t see. I’d lost my sight and my hearing, but I smelled my wife, and I felt her touch. That’s important, because I latched onto her. And she started praying, and she’s screaming at me, and I could hear barely out of one ear. And I grabbed her and told her, “I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m not going to make it this time, and I love you and you’re awesome. And I want to tell you thank you.” That’s when, I didn’t know what she was doing, but they told me later she climbed up in my lap, grabbed my shirt and said, “You will live and not die in the name of Jesus.” And it was quite a rough night.

SID: You’re the man of the understatement.

DAVID: But I came to the next morning, and I was still alive. And then gradually my organs cut back on and got my sight back, hearing. Life started coming back to me slow. But it was hard. I couldn’t work. I was weak. I couldn’t pick a coffee cup up. I couldn’t … There’s a lot of things I could not do. And then it dawned on me that we were doing a 40-day fast. And I don’t know who’s going to agree or disagree. It’s not relevant to me, but I told my wife, it is the will of God that I participate in this fast.

DAVID: She said, “You can’t. You’re too weak. You’ll die.” I said, “But you told me I would live.” She said, “Okay, but instead of you going off somewhere by yourself, can I participate with you?” And I said, “Of course you can.” She was nervous. Everybody’s nervous, because we haven’t been down this trail before. This is life and death trail. This is seek God for life. So we started, first day my health didn’t deteriorate anymore. I fasted.

DAVID: On the seventh day I’m asleep in my room. It’s early, early, early in the morning. And somebody grabbed me by the head and touched me. I jump up. I reached and got a .45-70 rifle, because I was from a dead sleep, right, and I grab this rifle. And I run in my office. I didn’t see anyone. And my wife is behind me clapping. And I turned to look at her, “What’s up with you?” She said, “Look at you.” I said, “What is it?” She said, “You’re holding a rifle for one. It weighs 11 pounds. Set it down.” So I did. She said, “I need you to do a couple of exercises for me to find the pain.” The pain was gone. I was completely healed.

SID: I want you to say this prayer. And that’s putting your little toes in the water, but Jesus will be inside of you rather than outside of you, and it’s the start of a life of the greatest adventure a human could have. Repeat after me out loud. Dear God …

Audience: Dear God …

SID: I’m a sinner.

Audience: I’m a sinner.

SID: And I’m so sorry.

Audience: And I’m so sorry.

SID: I believe the blood of Jesus …

Audience: I believe the blood of Jesus …

SID: … washes away my sins.

Audience: … washes away my sins.

SID: And I’m clean.

Audience: And I’m clean.

SID: And now that I’m clean …

Audience: And now that I’m clean …

SID: Jesus, come inside of me.

Audience: Jesus, come inside of me.

SID: I call you my Lord.

Audience: I call you my Lord.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: Well, Dennis, you were giving some examples of soul ties, but early on you said soul ties are not confined to the sexual arena. It could be agendas, places and things.

JENNIFER: Yes.

SID: Give me a concrete example, Jennifer.

JENNIFER: Okay. We knew a woman who left her husband and moved to Florida because she had to live in Florida and she couldn’t find a job in Florida. So, she wanted that so much that she left him because she had an emotional attachment to living in Florida. Anything that you want, that you can’t let go of. It could be a career. It could be food. It could be shopping. It could be workaholism. It could be anything that you’re drawn to that you can’t let go of and it’s unnatural. That’s the real key.

DENNIS: It could be an addiction.

JENNIFER: It could be an addiction. Right. Yes. Right, it starts with the craving, but you can take it as far as you want.

SID: What have you found with all of your experience as the major key for freedom?

JENNIFER: The major key for freedom of course is going to God and not just praying prayers to God, but going down to your spirit for Jesus indwells you and relying on his power. That’s the major key, and then the keys added to that is relying on him for forgiveness, relying on him for cleansing, but it has to be a matter of the heart. You can’t just say words.

SID: All right, so Dennis, give me some examples.

DENNIS: Well, I’ve seen kind of an agenda. But this pastor said, “I have this young girl that’s really gifted, but I can’t get through. She insists she was a single parent. She insists on having a father for this child and she sounded like a broken record. I’ve got to have a father for my son. I got to have a father for my son. I got to have a” … She wouldn’t listen to us. She wouldn’t listen to reason. This shows the consequence when you won’t deal with it. She ends up saying, “The first man that shows me interest, I just know he’s going to be my husband and he’s going to be a father to my” … She wanted a father more than she wanted a husband, to my child. The first man that showed her interest was schizophrenic, on drugs and thought he was Jesus and she got involved with him, married him and ended up, this is the interesting part, losing custody of that child that she had to have a father for.

DENNIS: That’s when you won’t listen. That’s just one of the examples when you won’t listen. The other example where they wouldn’t listen was from two different areas. A young man was calling about struggling with pornography. I thought it was interesting. He’d call it an unnatural driven-ness toward it and it’s wrong and he said, “Would you show me how to get rid of it?” What I found was one of the keys and we’ll talk about this later in detail–

SID: By the way that is supposed to be one of the strongest addictions to get free from.

DENNIS: Exactly, and he did wonderful, but here’s one of the keys. That was most people deal with guilt or shame for their behavior when they know it’s sinful and when they want to deal with it. They deal with guilt and shame but they never deal with the lust behind it, which was the hook that initially got in. When you can get that neutralized by the presence of God on the inside, you’ve got it at its core and you break the power of the craving, the lust, the excitement. Depending on whether it’s a person, place or thing–

SID: You think of lust again in a sexual arena, but it could be in any of those.

DENNIS: Any arena. Lust gives birth and it grows and it becomes a killer. Whether it’s attached to a person, place or thing.

JENNIFER: Lust is an inner excitement. The thing is that lust gives ground to a seducing spirit.

SID: Again. Here’s the important thing. You say, “I’m not dealing with pornography.” So, maybe it’s another addiction. TV, food, whatever. At the end of this program, I’m going to have Drs. Dennis and Jennifer Clark share a special mentoring session on our ISN network. I want them to equip you on how to hear and pray from your spirit. Few believers understand this. Log on to sidroth.org to watch. Now, these toxic emotions, they’ll sabotage your entire life. Sabotage your intimacy with God and destroy your destiny. Do you want to deal with it, or do you want to keep walking around that same mountain for 40 years? Next be right back.

DAVID: And I said, “Lord, cleanse my DNA. Show me, you know, my mind”, even my, even your I.Q. can go up. Daniel – it said that – that suddenly he was “ten times (wiser) “, smarter “in all matter [of] wisdom … understanding and learning than his peers]”; it didn’t say he studied ten times more, in Daniel 1! And so suddenly I’d be waking up for like 6 weeks of doing this, of asking God to cleanse my DNA with His blood, and cleanse my bloodline. Not just break the curse, but open up the blessings down the line, that’s encapsulated IN your DNA but it’s blocked.

SID: Hm!

DAVID: And when you ask Him to OPEN it, you can know things you never learned! It’s AMAZING! And suddenly I wake up, and I’m getting quantum physics, I’m getting understanding of time travel, space travel. I start picking up languages on this app, and I was learning Finnish, Russian, [SPEAKING RUSSIAN]. I was just picking up just Russian –

SID: I thought you ‘d never say that! No –

DAVID: [LAUGHS]

SID: I’m just teasing! [LAUGHS]

DAVID: And I was like, “WHOA! My God! THIS IS AMAAAZING!” It – and – and it was like synching with my spirit, my mind, my body; everything was like going up another level!

SID:  okay. [CHUCKLES] Now this is fascinating, but he has heard prophetic words that are about ready to happen on planet Earth; I want to find out about that.  don’t you want something more? [CHUCKLES] We’ll be right back for “Something More”, and I’m going to tell you something. I’ll also have David pray, and – a back was just healed. That was a freebie. [CHUCKLES]

DAVID: [LAUGHS]

SID: We’ll be back for “Something More”.

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SID: Welcome to “Something More.”  David, I forgot to ask you , –

SID: because I got so excited about this unsaved Jewish guy that gets his hair growing in a MEETING! I mean can you picture an unsaved Jewish person coming to a meeting and getting their hair growing out?  did he get saved?

DAVID: Yeah he did! Everyone there that wasn’t saved got saved; that was the thing. [VIDEO BEGINS]

SID: Well I want to get this “Aligning With Heaven” package into your hands. It’s the brand-new book, “Aligning With Heaven”, and you have revelation here that few people have ever even heard!  and then, it’s 4 CDs; 3 – “The Revival of Ancient Pathways”, “Glory”, “The Courts of Heaven”; and then the exclusive bonus CD is “Activating DNA Blessings”. Tell me to – just talk a little bit more [VIDEO ENDS] about this “Activating DNA Blessings”.

DAVID: Yeah. So basically, people understand okay, when you take communion, that the blood of Yeshua – His body. They also know about breaking generational curses. People say, “I break the curse off of my bloodline.”

SID: Um hm.

DAVID: But they DON’T know how to LIBERATE the blessings from their bloodline, once they’ve broken the curse. And that’s an amazing thing, because in your DNA there’s memory; in your blood there’s memory.

SID: But – but what if YOU don’t know this memory? You know, like I can’t go back –

DAVID: No.

SID: beyond my great-grandfather.

DAVID: Sure. You don’t -you don’t have to know it; you can just say, “Lord, go all the way down my family line; break every curse.”

SID: That’s a lot of people! [CHUCKLES]

DAVID: And – and then say, “Now liberate the blessings that you think I should receive from my family line”. Some maybe were scientists; some were maybe writers, philosophers, artists, whatever. I started doing that, and I started having – I was able to understand complex things, scientific things.  like space travel, time travel; I could never fully understand it. And for the next 6 weeks of doing this, I would wake up and I’d understand it. I’d get equations for it; I would – and it’s like something started speeding up. My ability to learn sped up.

SID: Tell me about you were talking about the bloodline and the DNA. Explain that a little more.

DAVID: Yeah. So like in your bloodline, for instance, there can be sicknesses like diabetes or –

SID: Um hm.

DAVID: or your father had it, your grandfather had it, so the doctors tell you , “Oh, you have this in your blood.”

SID: Right.

DAVID: But then there’s also OTHER good things in your bloodline that can be passed down. Once you break the curse, you can liberate the blessings down the bloodline of the favor, the blessings, the inheritances! There’s so much there that we don’t get –

SID: what do you mean, “inheritances”?

DAVID: Well even let’s say you ‘re, you know, like “the God of Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob.” Isaac gets born into the full blessing of Abraham; Jacob is born with the full blessing that Isaac gets. So a lot of has – have lost stuff in our family lines; and we can start saying, “God, the land, the prosperity even that our family had that was lost, I ask you to restore it to me, supernaturally”, and God can start doing that.

SID: Um, tell me, because I know you move in prophecy; you move in everything when the glory invades.

DAVID: [CHUCKLES]

SID:  but tell me about a prophecy that you ‘ve had in the past, just one that has come to pass.

DAVID: Prophetic word – okay. Um, [TSK TSK TSK]. I was in France during the 6-month revival that I talked about earlier. In the middle, God told me to prophesy France win the [PHOTO BEGINS] World Soccer Cup; and if they win, the pastor should continue the meetings, because he was going to cancel the meetings.

SID: Out of curiosity, maybe –

DAVID: [CHUCKLES]

BILL:  And you shall receive power AFTER the Holy Spirit’s come upon you!

KYNAN:  Come on! That’s good!

BILL:  So you’ve got the power! Now see that water on the inside of the dam is good evangelical water. You can go fishing.

KYNAN:  (LAUGHING)

BILL:  You can go boating, have fellowship. You can baptize in it. You go swimming in it.

KYNAN:  (LAUGHING)

BILL:  But it’s not producing any power!

KYNAN:  Come on!

BILL:  And the main purpose of the dam was to produce the power!

KYNAN:  Wow! That’s good.

BILL:  So that water has to go, open the water gate, go through it and hit the turbine. Or you open your water gate and the turbine gets in you go (speaks in tongues) It starts turning a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

KYNAN:  That’s good. That’s good.

BILL:  And the definition of a dynamo is a mechanical machine that converts from mechanical to electrical.

KYNAN:  That’s good! See friends, if you’re watching us today you need to understand that this Holy Spirit power is available to you!

BILL:  Yes!

KYNAN:  God doesn’t just want you sitting on the pews. He doesn’t just want you being a good evangelical, nothing against evangelicals, we love evangelicals, but there is more to the Christian life! When we look at the Church, when we look at God’s pattern for the Church it was called the Book of Acts. Not the book of thoughts, not the book of small groups. It was the Book of Acts!

BILL:  Amen!

KYNAN:  Which means that God has called us to take action and the only way we can act in the design of God is to move in the power of the Holy Spirit!

BILL:  Yes! Amen!

KYNAN:  Dr. Hamon, is that correct?

BILL:  That’s correct! It’s the one that can activate every gift! I use the illustration like to go along with that when we moved on our property there was a lot of forest and swampy pond that we had to dig out and we got this great big ol’ Caterpillar, oh, and I think Noah used it to clean out the Ark before He left, I think, it was so big. An old one. But it was a great big pistons on it but no battery could do it and you didn’t have room to put it on a battery. So he went and put what they call a pony motor on there, a little bigger than a lawnmower motor. So they went out to get that started. They would have to pull that motor. You go “brrrrrr” and get that going and then get that revved up. They would push that right in.  

KYNAN:  Push it ready to go.

BILL:  And then a big pressure! Boom, boom, boom and that thing gets heated up, going like moving trees and dirt, and I say, I say what you do you got to get your pony motor going to get the gifts of the Spirit going! 

KYNAN:  Amen! You know we’re going to be back in just a moment and we’re going to talk more about this because you all need to know that that dynamo is on the inside of you but more important you need to know that God wants to restore the body of Christ to His victorious plan! We’ll be back with “Something More!” in just a moment! God bless you!

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KYNAN:  Welcome back my friends! We’re on “Something More!” with Dr. Bill Hamon, a pioneer in the prophetic movement. And we’ve been talking about the power of the Holy Spirit and the restoration of the Church! And Dr. Hamon, you’ve been really laying out some foundational things that will help our viewers understand God’s plan for the Church. I mean you went all the way back to the beginning from 500 all the way to present time.

BILL:  Right.

KYNAN:  And why we are seeing so much really defeat and despair because many people a very simple revelation, a very simple revelation and there’s somebody, there’s somebody watching you’re saying you know what? I want that. I want the power of the Holy Spirit. I want to be able to pray in other tongues. You know that there’s more to the Christian life. You know that God has greater for you.   How would you like to live a supernatural life? What have I told you that when Jesus said in Matthew 16 “I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it” He meant what He said! He meant a victorious Church! A Church that looked like Him! That acts like Him! That sounds like Him! And the only way to sound like Him is to be filled with His Spirit! And the Bible says in Acts “You shall receive power after the Holy Spirit has come upon you and you’ll be witnesses unto Me.” So Dr. Hamon, I want you to just walk our listeners, our viewers through how they can practically begin to embrace this power that you’re talking about. 

BILL:  Let me explain it to them right this way. God’s greatest gift was Jesus to the world! God so loved the world that He gave Jesus, His Son, to redeem mankind!

KYNAN:  That’s right!

BILL:  Jesus came into the world with the Father. When He came He came to birth the Church.

KYNAN:  That’s right.

BILL:  He said I love the Church. Gave His life for the Church. He said feed the Church that God had purchased with His own blood. So Jesus wanted to give a gift to His Church so He gave the gift of the Holy Spirit to bring conviction, to bring conversion.

KYNAN:  That’s good.

BILL:  To bring sanctification. To help us grow and mature! So He sent the Holy Spirit and He gave it to the Church. And when the Holy Spirit came He wanted to give a gift to the individual believers.

KYNAN:  Wow!

JAMIE: Jesus spiritualizes this moment. He’s with His disciples in the boat. They’re all looking at the bread. Every one of them! They’re hungry and He says “beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.” He uses a natural moment to teach them a spiritual lesson! He’s going into the supernatural. Now here’s what I want to wrap up on. This is one of my favorite moments. Jesus comes to Bethsaida. They brought a blind man to Him. He begged Him to touch him so He took the blind man by the hand, led him out of the town. When He had spit on his eyes He put His hands on his eyes asked him if he saw anything. He looked up and he said I see men like trees walking. Say “men like trees walking.”

AUDIENCE: Men like trees walking.

JAMIE: Then He put His hands on his eyes again and made him whole. He made his eyes whole and He made him look up and he was restored and saw everyone clearly. Then He sent him away to his own house saying “neither go into town nor tell anyone in the town.” How confusing because if I was Jesus I would say that was a miracle. Go tell everybody. That was a miracle. But He’s saying specifically about this town doesn’t go back into this town. And Jesus takes him out of the city to heal him. We were in Brazil one year. I was with Randy Clark and there was a deaf section. About eight people. I talked to him recently about this. Eight deaf people in this deaf section. The winds of God came and whipped up. They actually came from the side and it started raining and the rain came in this place, it was like a coliseum but it had no walls. They had yet to build the walls. A massive stadium event and people were there worshipping Jesus and this wind came in, whipped up the rain and actually caused the rain to come in and splash! Guess where it splashed? On the deaf section! And in that moment eight deaf people immediately received their hearing!

AUDIENCE: Wow! [APPLAUSE]

JAMIE: They were screaming at the top of their lungs! They were so freaking out, they were so amazed at what God was doing they didn’t have words how to describe what had taken place! But in a moment we watched this wind whip up the rain and it splashes the deaf section and they stand up and they go “OHHH!” And they’re hearing for the first time in their life! There was a natural reality that was being healed but even deeper a spiritual reality was being healed! Cause in the spirit there was a toleration of a deaf spirit in that area. God was sending a judgment against that deaf spirit. Not deaf people but the thing that was causing children to be born with deafness. And He was doing this sovereignly; and He was doing it all at once simultaneously for eight people. Here’s what this man says. He says, after he’s taken out of the town, many of you have come from different places. You’ve come out from the town you’re in. Some of you on right now you’re watching this and you want to get here. You’re trying to find ways to get to places where God is! Get out of your city. Get out of where you’re at and go to where God is! Just look for opportunities to find God. Go with Him wherever He leads you. And Jesus takes this man out of the city. He heals him. How many of you know that Jesus never does things 50 percent?

AUDIENCE: Yes.

JAMIE: Why did he say I see men like trees walking? Now here’s what I want to ask you. How does a blind man know what trees look like?

AUDIENCE: Mm.

JAMIE: He was seeing in the supernatural! In the spirit, every single person is like a tree. Does it not say that we’ll be like trees planted on either side of the river? And he says I see men like trees walking. Jesus knew if He could heal his spiritual blindness then He could successfully heal his physical blindness! God wants to raise you up right now to not only be a healer of those in the physical but a healer of those in the supernatural! They’ve received what I call their enlightenment. They’ve no longer been enlightened. They’ve been “en-darkened!” And God wants to break off a generation that, that, that, that blindness that keeps them from seeing in the spirit! What if you are not just a healer in the physical but God is raising you up as a healer in the supernatural as well? Here’s what I want to declare over you. Many of you are about to enter into encounters with the supernatural! You’re about to enter into a time where what you once were a part of God’s saying you can’t be a part of that anymore. You’ve got to come out to a people that embrace the realities of the supernatural. You’ve got to come out to a people and immerse yourself in a place where people believe God for what He said! That this thing is not just storybooks but it’s literally living life!

LARRY: Welcome back to Something More! I want to talk about the evidence of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2, chapter 2. We read about how when the Spirit of God is being poured out in the Last Days, which by the way we’re living in the Last Days! We’ve been living in the Last Days since the outpouring of the Spirit. One of the things that you and I need to position ourselves for is every benefit and blessing that comes with the outpouring. We’ve talked about tongues. We’ve talked about prophecy. There’s certain things we’re comfortable with but I feel like the Lord is bringing us into more! And that’s one of the things I wanted to talk about Jamie is I feel like God’s first language is not Hebrew, it’s not Greek, it’s not English. There are many different languages that God speaks!

JAMIE: Totally!

LARRY: So from your experience as one who operates in the “see-er” anointing, as one who perceives from the Lord and who’s had a variety of supernatural experiences, can you share, just talk about how many different ways that the Lord has spoken to you and maybe describe some of those.

JAMIE: Yeah. You know it’s super-interesting. I know with my physical body I have 5 senses. How many senses do I have with my spirit man? I don’t know. I haven’t really discovered every single sense with my spirit man. But I know with my soul I have my mind, my will and my emotion. God can speak to my mind. He can speak to my will. He can trigger my emotion to get into a place of obedience, to get into a place of faith. You know so with our physical man I feel, where it’s so often overlooked –

LARRY: Yeah.

JAMIE: – can God actually speak to me with my physical nature?

LARRY: Sure.

JAMIE: You know and there’s a thought the physical nature’s evil. So many people have run with that thing and almost put their physical body so far below its potential that we actually lose the ability to connect with God in a physical way!

LARRY: Well exactly! And that’s a modern form of Gnosticism.

JAMIE: Totally.

LARRY: To really denounce the body and even the soul, elevating the spirit. Yeah, that’s, I mean that’s dangerous.

JAMIE: Totally. So he says this thing in Hebrews 5:14. The writer of Hebrews he says strong meat, we all want strong meat, I don’t want to just live off the milk, I want strong meat. But how do I get that strong meat? He says strong meat belongs to those who by reason of their use have their senses exercised to discern between good and evil. Well by reason of practice! So are we practicing with our senses the discernment between good and evil?

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

JAMIE: And this is part of the “see-er” realm or the “see-er” way is actually using your senses or your members of your body to see what it is that God is doing, hear what it is that God is doing, smell what it is that God us doing, taste what it is that He is up to. You know so there’s different ways that we can identify what it is that He is doing. And if we have our senses honed in that we could practice this we could feel what it is that He is doing.

LARRY: Yeah. Yeah.

JAMIE: You know have you ever been in a moment,

LARRY: where you’re praising God, you’re worshipping and then all of a sudden you feel a gust of wind?

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

JAMIE: And you’re looking around is the fan on?

LARRY: Sure.

JAMIE: Is there an A/C that just kicked on? You know you’re trying to understand this. I’m not talking about you’re outside. But you’re inside. You’re indoors. You’re praying. You’re worshipping. Maybe a song comes on that you know really connects you to the Father and you’re feeling this moment and all of a sudden you feel this wind.

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

CLEDDIE: [leads the audience in chant] All in! All in! All in! All in! All in! All in! All in! [now singing] Moses on the banks of the mighty Red Sea. Behind him come the soldiers of Pharaoh’s army. He raised his staff the waters rolled back cause he was betting on God. Now Paul and Silas down in Philippi’s jail they didn’t moan and they didn’t wail. They praised Gods name in the midnight hour cause they were betting on God! And I’m pushing my chips to the middle of the table! Pushing my – You think that’s crazy?

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: A woman came the next night. She brought a bag of potato chips. I’m from Texas and she brought the biggest bag of potato chips! It looked like, it looked like a potato tow sack. It was that big! And she leaned it up against the pulpit. She thought I was talking about potato chips!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: What I was talking about is if you really want to see a move of God you’ve got to be all in! Everybody say all in!

AUDIENCE: All in!

CLEDDIE: I think probably there are some people that really will never see a move of God because they refuse to offer themselves in the day of His power! How many times has God moved in churches and among people throughout the earth? And I’ve traveled all over the world. How many times has He moved and God showed His power? There was somebody that was healed? Just one person gets healed that’s enough for me to believe that’s the day of His power! It said the people offered themselves willingly in the day of His power. How many of you have seen a miracle and you say well I’ve seen that before? That’s when you jump in! That’s when you roll up your sleeves! More people. My friend Randy says more people get healed if you get your hands out of your pockets. Turn around and tell somebody more people will get healed if you get your hands out of your pockets!

AUDIENCE: More people get healed if you get your hands out of your pockets!

CLEDDIE: Then there’s a lot of people who’ll never see revival because of compromise! How much compromise is there in your spirit? God hates, a compromiser! I tell people all the time what you compromise to keep, you lose! And were living in a day where the church is playing the game of compromise. How long has it been since you’ve been to a church where you heard the echo of your heart? Our boys go out to colleges and places. Go away from home. Move out to some other place and they can’t find a church. They call me and say I can’t find a church! I say go find a church where you hear the echo of your heart. They call me back. Can’t find a church. I say go find a church that’s producing preachers. They call me back can’t find a church that’s producing men and women of God. That’s where we are. That’s where we are. Does your church produce men and women of God? Men that love nothing but God. Hate nothing but the devil? I’m telling you when I came to Christ I made up my mind at that point I was going to have to be filled with the Holy Ghost. I told people I’ll have to be filled with the Holy Spirit or I won’t be able to live for God! I can’t play games! I’ve got to have everything God has for me! And so there’s a lot of people that don’t have a move of God! Say this with me, “Little baby”.

AUDIENCE: Little baby.

CLEDDIE: Little push!

AUDIENCE: Little push!

CLEDDIE: Big baby.

AUDIENCE: Big baby.

CLEDDIE: You figured it out?

AUDIENCE:  Uh-huh! Big push. [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: All were doing is producing little babies. But if you want a big baby it’s got to be a BIG push! Ask these ladies sitting by you!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: Little baby? Big baby?

AUDIENCE: Big push!

CLEDDIE: Little baby?

AUDIENCE: Little push.

CLEDDIE: Big baby?

AUDIENCE: Big push!

CLEDDIE: I think right now is America is at the point where we’re going to have to have a big push! And it’s going to have to be people like you that are hungry enough for God to come out and spend an afternoon watching these stories where people are talking about the supernatural! I don’t want to swim around in somebody else’s boot step prints for another day! I want to make some boot prints of my own! I don’t want you to swim around in somebody else’s boot prints! God can put healing in your hands. Raise your hand there. [slaps hands] He can put healing in your hands and all of a sudden your life takes on new meaning! I think that every one of you, are here, by design! Matter of fact I felt all day the witness of the Holy Spirit that He’s getting ready to fall in this place! I don’t even know if you’ll get home tonight!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER

CLEDDIE: I don’t even know if you’ll get home tomorrow! It depends on how hungry you are! Son, back in the corner back there. Stand up! Stand up! The fire of God is on you right now! The power of God is on you! The anointing of God is on you! He’s going to make you a voice and not an echo! You’re going to be used mightily! And I’m telling you when you get up in the morning you’re going to have marching orders and you’re going to know what the will of God is to do because He’s touching you today! I’m not telling you anything you do not know. He’s confirming in your spirit what He’s called you to do and be! That’s the way it works!

AUDIENCE: Jesus! Thank You! Amen!

AUDIENCE: [APPLAUSE]

BILL: [LAUGHING] Ah! Ah! Thank you! Thanks! It’s always wonderful to be with happy people!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

BILL: And hungry people! You know it’s so incredible to see what the Lord is doing right now in the earth. And so many people look at all the tragedies cause they’re everywhere and they read into those tragedies what God is like and they miss completely that He has hope in every situation. When He gave us the prayer to pray “on earth as it is in heaven” He was giving us the way to bring the solutions of His world into this one. And I think having hope, being a people of hope, hope is not wishing something good would happen. The word “hope” actually means “the joyful anticipation of good.” It’s the kids on Sunday morning that are, excuse me, Christmas morning that are back in their bedrooms waiting until they get to come into the living room where the tree is and the gifts are. It’s that anticipation in the back room. That is actually the word “hope.” It’s joyful anticipation of good. And so any area of our life for which we have no hope is under the influence of a lie. And so we have the responsibility to make sure that we manage our hearts well and that we approach this that God has given us to do. To always bring the influence of hope! One of the ladies in our church was in a time of prayer here a nber of years ago now and she came out of this prayer time and she told Kris Vallotton, my senior associate, this statement, and I think the entire staff now uses this as though it were our own, you know, and the statement is “the person with the most hope will always have the most influence!”

AUDIENCE: Mm 

BILL: Think about that. The person with the most hope will always have the most influence! Now we’ve seen that. We have interactions, we can’t talk specifics, but we have interactions with various political leaders, Hollywood, those you know people that are very well known and these people for the most part don’t have hope for what they’re facing. Their responsibilities in politics, governing cities, nations, whatever they really don’t have answers and they’re in a real, a real dilemma. And so it is the prime time for the people of God to stand up with hope, not this brainless or careless, but the hope that just says you know what? We know there’s an answer. And I may not know what the answer is but I do have access to it!

AUDIENCE: That’s right!

BILL: Because He has given me legal access to the mysteries of God and really we just turn our hearts toward the Lord and we seek Him for the answers, for the breakthroughs. I feel like what the Lord is doing right now is He’s raising up what I refer to as like a Solomon-type generation that will be a generation that lives with the wisdom of God that brings heaven’s solutions into earth’s problems and conflicts. And that’s where we are.

AUDIENCE: [CLAPPING]

BILL: We’re able to do that because of this burning conviction, a burning realization that God is perfectly good. That He’s perfectly good. There’s no blemish, there’s no shadow, there’s no, there’s no –  You know I hear people say “Well He’s good but He’s mysteriously good.” And what they mean by that is He does bad things to us but He’s going to make it work for good. That annoys me to pieces! That would be like you know breaking my child’s arm so that I can prove that I can comfort them and then reset it and show them I can take care of them! You know it’s ridiculous the kinds of things that get attributed to God and it’s unnecessary. But I believe that the Lord is raising up a generation of people right now that just settle those issues so that we don’t constantly trip over them. And yet we stand in the middle of adversity, sometimes loss or disappointment, sometimes the greatest breakthroughs we’ve ever seen in our life and regardless of the extreme we stand there with confidence in the goodness of God! And I’ll tell you what. Confidence in His goodness is contagious!

AUDIENCE: Yes.

BILL: It’s the disease that needs to spread through the earth, you know.

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

DONNA: but the Lord was showing me that it’s not in our flesh, it’s not in mimicking somebody doing what somebody else does; but we have to get in touch with the voice of the Holy Spirit.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And it was about 6 months later, I was in prayer and intercession all day long. I came into church, sat in the back row, and that spirit of intercession came over me.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And the Pastor of the church, I instinctively SNAPS looked up at him, and he looked at me and said, Go pray for this woman, and I didn’t even have to THINK, Larry.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: I just put my arm around her shoulder, and by the unction of the Holy Spirit.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: said, I take authority over you, you lying devil.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And she screamed, and hit the floor!

LARRY: Wow; wow.

DONNA: And she was set free immediately. I didn’t’ scream.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: I didn’t have a premeditated thought.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: it just came out of my spirit, and she was CLAPS INSTANTLY set free!

LARRY: Come on.

DONNA: And what the Lord was showing me is, you HAVE that abiding anointing.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: you’ve GOT that authority.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: but there’s a pump.

LARRY: Yes!

DONNA: that we can prime, and it’s that.

LARRY: Ooh!

DONNA: praying in the Holy Spirit, like Jude says.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: Building yourselves up on your most holy faith,

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: praying in the Holy Ghost. CHUCKLES

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And I think that’s what we have to learn; that’s a flow.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: It’s not something we manufacture; it’s a FLOW.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: out of our spiritual relationship with the Lord.

LARRY: Yeah. Well I want to move into a time of ministry right now, because what the Holy Spirit wants to do is make you aware of that river of living water that lives inside of you. Jesus said, Out of your belly will flow rivers of living water. That’s the Holy Spirit who’s already inside of you. You don’t need to wait for a feeling; you need to just recognize your authority in Jesus, and step-out in that authority. Donna, just based on what you have seen God do, just based on how you’ve seen God move, can you just release that over our over the people who are watching? Specifically, I feel like the Lord wants to increase our awareness.

DONNA: Yes.

LARRY: of that authority we’ve received.

DONNA: I’ve just been seeing.

LARRY: Yeah; yeah.

DONNA: as I’ve been sitting here, there are so many people that have been. MUSIC

DONNA: operating on that level of the flesh.

LARRY: Mm.

DONNA: and there’s been like a cloud of oppression over your mind and spirit. The enemy has been lying to you, saying that you’re out for the count.

LARRY: Mm.

DONNA: and that there’s no hope. And so we’re just going to call the devil a liar.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: right now, and we’re going to learn how to speak to him; but it’s going to come from that inner release of worship and praise. Maybe you’ve never been baptized in the Holy Spirit, and now is your time for that. Jesus said, Out of your belly, out of your spiritual womb, would flow rivers of living water. 

LARRY: Mm.