Sid: We want everyone everywhere to understand who the breaker is and the breaker- anointing, and that’s why my guest Barbara Yoder, I want you that are not that familiar with her to find out a bit and I’m going to find out a bit about how she came to the Lord because one at one point she was a flaming atheist. And it reminds me a little bit of my wife Barbara in that my was an atheist but she decided she wasn’t going to tell anyone she was an atheist just in case there was a God and so she became an agnostic. But you read a book of an amazing follower of Jesus Dietrich Bonhoeffer called “The Cost to Discipleship” and that made a major impact on your life; tell me about it.
Barbara: Yeah it sure did because I was an atheist because of a lot of tragedy. I had been brought up a Christian and I was also an intellectual. So I knew that I had been brought up to believe in God didn’t believe there was one given circumstances and so was reading all the prominent both Christian and non-Christian philosophers. Happened on Dietrich Bonhoeffer ‘s book “The Cost of Discipleship.” One night I went up to my bedroom and was just sitting in the middle of my bed and said “I’m going to read some more of this book.” And I got to a place in the book that talks about the leap of faith and something inside of me just said “You just got to jump off the edge you got to jump off the precipice what if God does exist; what if He’s real and what if you can know Him?” So to me the leap of faith was to say “God if you exist I have a few things to talk over with You.” Well, the minute those words left my mouth all of a sudden Jesus walked into my room and when I saw Him…
Sid: I always wondered someone having no paradigm for the supernatural Jesus walks into their room; were you intimidated, were you afraid what emotions were going on?
Barbara: Nah, listen I wasn’t afraid at all when I saw Him, I began weeping it was like liquid love. I just wept and I wept and I wept and I was not a person who cried. I had to watch a sorrowful movie to make me cry about once a year and it would relieve the tension, so it wasn’t fear it was just liquid love. I was totally overcome by love when I saw Him. It literally opened up a door and I don’t know how to explain it to tell you Sid I literally felt like a door opened down inside my belly and in my innermost man and it was like everything that was in a black box down there holding me prisoner began to just be drained outside of me. And I cried and I cried and I cried and I cried as I released all the junk because I was in His presence and I found out for the first time that He was a God of total and absolute love. I had been brought up with a God of fear, I was afraid of Him I never could do anything right. He was a God who killed people, my mother died they told me that was God’s will; my grandparents died with a month of my mother they told me that was God’s will. It was just like God wasn’t a very nice person to me but when I saw Jesus that night I literally was transformed in that instance. Ever since that night I have never doubted His existence.
Sid: You know I can really relate to what you’re saying because my experience was so similar when you used the term liquid love when it happened I didn’t know the term but I knew that it happened. And many times people will say “Well how did you become a believer and I’ll say I don’t really understand it but when that love hit me I didn’t have any more questions.
Barbara: Yeah, wasn’t it incredible.
Sid: So I totally relate to that but you had a lot of bad habits. I understand shortly thereafter you were water baptized but you got more than a water baptism; what happened?
Barbara: There was a little bit, it was probably about a year afterwards I moved to Detroit and they told me I needed to get water baptized. So was intellectual so I had to study it first. What’s water baptism; why do I need to be water baptized? Once I studied it in the scripture I understood not just water baptism as a physical experience but as a spiritual experience that had power associated with it. And you know because Roman’s talks about that we’re baptized into Jesus and that when we’re baptized we arise to walk in the newness of life. And when I was baptized I was so released from old habits. They also said that when Jesus was baptized in water He was baptized in the Holy Spirit so believe God to be baptized in the Holy Spirit simultaneously. So when I came up out of that tank of water I not only was baptized in water walking in the newness of life with Jesus freed from bad habits but I was speaking in an unknown tongue. Which was totally foreign to me because I was brought up to not even believe in tongues that it was of the devil and all that you know other stuff we’re taught. But here I was speaking in this language that I didn’t even have an interpretation for.
Sid: You know I believe that what you just described is normal; it’s what is supposed to be. The early Jewish believers I’ve read reports used to believe when they would go under the water everything negative in their life would stay under the water and when they came up they were baptized in the Holy Spirit. So you were just normal but abnormal to what is considered normal Christianity I think you know what I mean any way.
Barbara: Oh yeah.
Barbara: It was powerful I so believe that my old man; the man of sin that had a will against God would be buried in those waters of baptism and I’d get a new heart; a fleshy heart. That I literally Sid took a list of things I needed to be freed from in the baptismal tank with me and I totally believe that when I came up out of the water that I would be free. There are about 5 or 6 things on that list and when I came up out of the water one of them was smoking. I was a chain smoker and after that night I never have ever smoked again; just like that in one moment. I had tried to stop smoking; I remember being able to go as long as 3 weeks without smoking but I was so addicted. I remember walking down a street the most prominent street in Detroit and here I was a university professor. I stopped in the street I noticed this guy he had a pack of cigarettes in his pocket in his shirt and I couldn’t go any longer than 3 weeks and I stopped this guy and said “Could I bum a cigarette off of you?”
Barbara: And would you please light my cigarette? I mean that’s how bad it was that I was willing stop a total stranger on the street for a cigarette I was so desperate. And twice I made it the 3 weeks but I couldn’t go any longer. But when I was baptized in water that old man who was addicted to cigarettes was buried and I was totally free from for me was an addiction.
Sid: Barbara briefly give me a description of the breaker-anointing.
Barbara: The breaker-anointing is an anointing… I believe one of the names of God is God the breaker Micah 2:13, Barnes notes talks about it. The breaker-anointing is when you are up against impossible circumstances and through either revelation… well it always involves revelation of some sort, when that comes on you as to who God is and what He will do that impossible…You begin to declare what God is saying and that breaker-anointing comes on you it’s really Jesus the Breaker and He goes before you and breaks open that which is impossible for us to get through.
Sid: You know as I’ve been studying your material it’s almost as if there is a stronghold in the invisible world of the demonic stopping our prayers from getting through. Stopping is the word explained itself stopping a breakthrough. And what you have found is when you teach on this and when you pray for people this breaker-anointing comes on them and then in their life the salvation of their family, their physical health; their finances; their marriages. When that resistance is gone then it’s real easy for the manifestation of the prayers. What type of feedback that you’ve gotten from people as you taught on the breaker-anointing?
Barbara: Oh my goodness, families have been changed, the individual has been changed; I just got a letter the other day from somebody who had sat in one of my teachings, or preaching, where I’d been speaking at a conference and just through the preaching of the word they literally were transformed. Things broke off of them and they were able to breakthrough to a new dimension and break off some old habit patterns and mind sets that before that time they were just totally incapable of breaking.
Sid: Well, you know a lot of people are very fearful about what you don’t even have to be a prophet is coming on planet earth very rapidly happening right before our eyes in every arena. But you know what I believe it’s going to be the greatest time for sold out consecrated believer in the Messiah that operates in the breaker anointing…