SID: And if you don’t have access to Jesus, and you have everything, you have nothing. Patricia was making breakfast one morning and suddenly an angel was in the kitchen with three prophetic scrolls about the future. You’re making, I think you told me scrambled eggs or something, and having breakfast. I, you have some guests, tell me about them.

PATRICIA: Yeah. So, this is really important I think, Sid, because a lot of times believers think that you have to be in some kind of spiritual retreat or spiritual position to receive from God. But I was just cooking eggs. I was cooking breakfast for my house guests, and all of a sudden I felt the presence of an angelic being behind me, and it was, it made me stop what I was doing. And then I went to turn to see if I could actually see it in visionary form, which I didn’t by the way. But I did see in my spirit three scrolls, which I knew were three messages.

And to my understanding, the angel delivered three messages from the Lord for my personal life and ministry at that time. After it left, the presence of God lingered in the room. My guest came down. I told them what happened. The presence was still there. We ate our eggs, went on to a tent meeting that we were hosting at the time. I went into worship and all of a sudden the presence came back again and I went into what I call a word encounter. Maybe I could even describe it as going inside of a scroll, I don’t know, but it was an unfolding of revelation by the spirit of God, of one scripture in the Bible and it was Genesis 26, Verse 12 and 13, which is a story about Isaac sowing a seed, sowing his seed, and as a result of that, it opened up into four realms of abundance. And so this revelation was coming to me. It was inside, I could feel the presence of the Lord all around me.

SID: I feel the presence of the Lord now.

PATRICIA: I can too also. And He showed me, He said he wants his people to engage in all four realms of abundance because He came to give us abundance of life. Now at that time, our ministry actually had a financial need. We were working on a project and we were about $100,000 short of fulfilling the project, but we were believing God for it. I looked at the first part and the first realm was the realm of increase on the seed that you sow, if you sow, you reap. And it said a hundred fold in the same year. I only had two months left to the year, but I had this faith that was like the spirit of God said, “I’m going to fulfill this need before the end of the year.”

And I just had this spirit of faith. I brought out my checkbook, I wrote a check. No one was taking an offering or anything like this. This was just the leading of the spirit. I wrote out a check for $1,000 and I said, “God, I’m sowing this in faith and I’m going to believe for $100,000 to come in to meet this need.” So I ran up, put it in the basket. Again, no one was taking an offering. I just did it and I felt the joy of the Lord. And the Lord said that seed is going to open up these four realms of abundance.

So the first is that you receive a hundredfold return. The second was that you would be blessed. The third is he became rich. And then the fourth was he became wealthy. And there’s a difference between rich and wealth. Rich is your personal abundance. Wealth is the way you influence the world with what you have. And I thought, this is amazing. I was just so full of faith. Well, in less than three weeks, the $100,000 need and more was met for that project that we were working on. And we got personally blessed, and it just continued to grow and grow and grow.

SID: Justin, you were a real rebellious maverick before you knew the Messiah, but then after knowing the Messiah, you actually got kicked out of a new age festival?

JUSTIN: That’s right, yeah. Some friends and I went into a number of new age fairs actually under the moniker mystics of Yeshua. So we were calling ourselves mystics of Yeshua in order to really read people’s mail prophetically, interpret dreams, pray for healing, cast out devils.

SID: That’s normal, isn’t it?

JUSTIN: It’s supposed to be. Yes. And so during these psychic fairs, we became a really hot topic. We had organizers of the psychic fair telling people, they would say, “I’ve only got time for one. Which one?” Because we’d be in the reading room with 20 other psychics and we were believers and they would say, “I’ve only got time for one.” And the organizers would say, “You’ve got to go to the mystics of Yeshua.”
SID: But they weren’t believers.

JUSTIN: No, definitely not. And they would say, “They’ve got the hottest energy in here.” There were times that we would have a line of people for 30, 45 minutes waiting to get prophetic ministry from us. You know, we’re surrounded by the counterfeit. We had the goods and so people were hungry. We saw many people get saved. We saw two witches that got saved who came out of witchcraft. One of them we didn’t know about until years later, but because of our ministry there, she got radically saved and delivered. But what ended up happening, the reason we got kicked out is somebody found out who we really were, that we were casting demons out of people, that we are leading people to the Lord. And they sent a letter to the entire psychic organization blacklisting all of the mystics of Yeshua.

SID: Now, before you got saved, people wouldn’t have thought, years drug addiction, dealer of drugs, arrests. So you just come back from having a good old time and you’re partying on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, and you come home and you get visited by a glory cloud.

JUSTIN: Yes.

SID: Why does God do that to a guy that’s drug addict? I’ve never seen a glory cloud. What happened?

JUSTIN: Well, I got really desperate, especially for a couple of years leading up to that. So many things were going wrong in my life. It was no longer fun to party. I was just stuck and I was just crying out to the Lord and he heard my prayers. He also heard my dad’s prayers, who happened to be on a prayer retreat during the same days that I was partying on Bourbon Street. And so when I got home, 3:00 in the morning that night-

SID: Was his prayer retreat mostly for you?

JUSTIN: That was his main prayer for sure. Yeah. I went in to the bedroom and shut the door behind me and went face first on the ground. And for probably the first time in my life, I began to encounter the presence of God. In my spirit I could see that there was an actual cloud of the glowing glory of God that just moved into my room and hovered over me for three hours. I mean, the heart surgery that God did on me was remarkable. The addiction was broken off, years of emotional and mental turmoil and all of that was just, it was like I became a new creation. Like I was born again and transferred out of the kingdom of darkness and into the kingdom of light.

SID: I read that somewhere.

JUSTIN: Yes, me too. So it changed everything, quite literally.

SID: You know something, if you can conquer that spirit of death, everything else is almost easy and the method is the same. That’s what’s so important about this teaching. But this spirit of death keeps trying to come on, Becky, tell me about the time you actually died.

BECKY: Yes, I did. I remember I was in Guatemala and one thing I want to express here, ask God, why is the spirit of death coming after us? What is going on in the situation? And He’ll tell you and He will reveal great things. And the enemy is just plain afraid of us. He’s afraid of us. So he wants to take us out so we don’t fulfill our destiny. But here is what happens when you die. And oftentimes, and we talked about this before, about having a fear of death and people being afraid because they don’t know what’s going on. I’m talking about God’s people, but I’m telling you, Jesus took the sting out of death for the believer. And as this was happening, as my spirit was lifting out of my body, I’m laying in my bed breathing in those last breaths.

And so you’re lifting out. And as soon as I lifted out of that body, the next thing I knew, I was standing in this glorious light next to the side of the bed. And the Lord just allowed me to just worship Him. And I just worshiped and worshiped and worshiped. And then all of a sudden I looked over here and Jesus was sitting up above the bed, and halfway in the wall. And the next thing I knew, I was sitting next to him halfway in the wall. And you can see through the walls, you can hear everything that’s going on around you. I could see my husband in the next room, the bathroom, and he was crying out to God. He was crying out to God for my life. And all of a sudden I looked at Jesus and he’s looking at me like this.

And I looked at him and I said, “Wait a minute, it’s not my time to go.” And I said, “Who’s going to call me back in my body?” And he said, “You are.” And I said, “Okay.” And it was like God, Jesus was training me. And I’m saying, “Okay, in the name of Jesus, I command my spirit back into my body in the name of Jesus.” And the next thing I knew it was morning. And it was very strange when I woke up because I knew, Sid, and it’s going to make me cry. I could have been with Jesus for eternity at that moment. I could have, but I knew that he wanted me to choose to live on this earth and to fulfill my destiny, which I hadn’t even begun to fulfill.
SID: Tell me about the witch doctor that wanted to kill you.

BECKY: Oh, the witch doctor, yes. Sometimes we fear the devil and because we forget that greater is Jesus in us than he who is in the world. Amen? And here I was ministering for a full week in Northern Tanzania with the Maasai tribe. I used to go there a couple times a year and I would minister and minister and minister out in the bush in the Serengeti plains. I walked up to the platform, it was now time for me to preach. And I was teaching them about the redemptive blood of Jesus. And it was amazing, and then these people came forward for healing. And so, and they want you to lay hands on them. That’s what they expect. That’s what they walk all these miles and days for. And so here I was and I remember laying my hands on the first woman and she went under the power, healed in the name of Jesus.

And I went to go lay my hand on the next woman standing next to her. But on the corner of my eye I saw this man and he had this keen, this kind of stick, that they carry with them. And I’m noticing that he’s very close to me and I’m about to lay my hand on this woman. So it’s happening very fast. And all of a sudden he accidentally bumps into me. And as soon as he bumped into me, so lightly bumped into me, that man went flying backwards through the air. The people out there actually parted as he went flying through the air, backwards on the ground dead. And I said, “Jesus, help me. Somebody just died in the healing line.” And I went running to the man. I was so surprised by the whole thing.

Well, first of all, let’s look at a sinner. This person gets under conviction for sin, and he has the leading of the Holy Spirit to receive Jesus as Messiah. That is a god encounter. When a person experiences what Sid Roth talk about in this new Bible, God talk being filled with the Holy Spirit. This is face to face with God because it improves and increases your intimacy with the Father and Jesus. When Sid Roth talk about divine healing, like Stephen Brooks literally takes scriptures in this Bible for categories of disease. It says if you apply these scriptures, you can be healed. Sandra Kennedy takes scriptures here.

To go on answering your question. A lot of times when we talk about face to face with God, we talk about dramatic dreams, visions, experiences with angels, seeing Jesus face to face. But when I talk about face to face with God, I’m talking about a father or a mother praying for their child, and all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit quickens them or makes them to become aware that something is going on with that child. God gives them a revelation. They go on a search and discovery and find that that’s true. Or maybe a person has two job options and they think about one job option and they’re disturbed. They think about the other and have a peace. This is face to face with God, according to Sid Roth

Our Guest Jason Noble

SID: Jason, your father’s a pastor, and of course today you’re a pastor. At age eight you become a believer and it was almost a normal type of thing. You go to Sunday school at nine and what happens?

JASON: I got filled with the Holy Spirit. God’s power just showed up and it was just a normal Sunday. I had leaders that believed that it was so important to introduce kids to the supernatural and they did. I mean got filled with the spirit and from there seeing God just do incredible miracles of healing, people raised from the dead. It’s been an incredible experience to watch God move.

SID: Tell me your definition of a miracle.

JASON: A miracle to me is God doing only what he could do. There’s no other answer. It’s an impossible situation where the only answer is God showing up.

SID: Jason was involved in a miracle. It was such a major miracle Hollywood made a motion picture of this. What’s the name of the picture?

JASON: The movie is called Breakthrough and now it’s available anywhere where you can pick up movies.

SID: Well, tell me about John Smith. You made that name up, right?

JASON: No, I can’t say I did, but yeah, I mean, I’d gotten the call. It was January 19th, 2015, St Louis, Missouri, a 14 year old boy had fallen through the ice in Lake St Louis. He was under for 15 minutes. They pulled him out and he was dead. I mean icicles hanging off of his body. His body was gray. They worked on him for another 45 minutes, an hour and eight minutes altogether with no pulse, no oxygen. And so after an hour and eight minutes, they were ready to call time of death. I mean, the doctors know after basically two minutes, the chance of living is pretty much non-existent. Joyce Smith walked in the room. John had been adopted from Guatemala and she said, “I’m not letting my son go.”

In a split minute decision, she walked up to her dead cold son’s feet–

SID: How does she even know to do this?

JASON: Well, and that’s a great, great perspective. She was preparing months before and she didn’t even know. And what started it for her is she had seen that Abraham was a friend of God. She started this study. She said, “Why was Abraham known as a friend of God?” And God took her on this journey that would lead her up to this hospital room where she stood in front of John. And so many times as believers, we wait until the middle of the storm to prepare for it. But we have to prepare before the storm to build our foundation. That means being in God’s word. That means praying. That means being desperate for him. So she walks up and she grabs her son’s cold feet. And at that moment they said that literally when she prayed… She prayed, “Holy Spirit bring my son back to life.” The power of God went up his body so strong that it literally knocked the medical professionals off of his body.

SID: Where’s a television camera when I want it?

JASON: Right, exactly. And at that moment his heartbeat came back. His pulse came back. He had a pulse. They transferred him down to St Louis Cardinal Glennon children’s Hospital where they said he’s brain dead. That there’s a 1% chance he’ll make it overnight. If he does make it he’ll be a vegetable the rest of his life. What we learned walking out of that is God does a miracle, but sometimes you have to fight for the completion of that miracle. We walked into that room and we began to pray. Lord restore his lungs. We were like, breathe life back into him.

And as I prayed that prayer I turned around in the room, I see two angels that are floor to ceiling. I mean, and they were on guard. And I’d seen those two angels at a ladies room that I had prayed with four years earlier in Port Angeles, Washington. I’d gotten the call that she was 15 minutes from death, 85 years old, had never ever mentioned the name of Jesus or given her heart to the Lord. I got down by her ear and I whispered, “Ma’am, you are on the edge of eternity.” Because I think the greatest miracle that we’ll ever experience is salvation. That’s the greatest miracle.

So I squeezed her hand and I said, “Ma’am, you are on the edge of eternity. If you want to ask Jesus in your heart.” And I felt her faintly squeeze. Within 50… And I turned around and she squeezed my hand and those same two angels were in the room. And within 15 minutes I started seeing the color of life come back into her. She was awake in 30 minutes. And after an hour she said, “I gave my life to Jesus.” And she walked out of the hospital a day later.

I knew with John that God had done something. So we continued to pray, “Lord restore his brain.” And over his brain I saw a million colors, like God was just knitting his brain, because I believe that God’s solo creator. If he created the heavens and the earth, he can still create today. And we prayed, and literally he opened his eyes. I saw life. I walked to Joyce and I said, “I don’t know how, I’m not sure when, but he is walking out of this hospital and he’ll be completely healed.”

Well, first of all, let’s look at a sinner. This person gets under conviction for sin, and he has the leading of the Holy Spirit to receive Jesus as Messiah. That is a god encounter. When a person experiences what Sid Roth talk about in this new Bible, God talk being filled with the Holy Spirit. This is face to face with God because it improves and increases your intimacy with the Father and Jesus. When Sid Roth talk about divine healing, like Stephen Brooks literally takes scriptures in this Bible for categories of disease. It says if you apply these scriptures, you can be healed. Sandra Kennedy takes scriptures here.

To go on answering your question. A lot of times when we talk about face to face with God, we talk about dramatic dreams, visions, experiences with angels, seeing Jesus face to face. But when I talk about face to face with God, I’m talking about a father or a mother praying for their child, and all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit quickens them or makes them to become aware that something is going on with that child. God gives them a revelation. They go on a search and discovery and find that that’s true. Or maybe a person has two job options and they think about one job option and they’re disturbed. They think about the other and have a peace. This is face to face with God, according to Sid Roth

Our Guest Stephanie Schureman

BOB: Welcome back to Something More. And when we took a break we were talking about, what do you do when you’re hearing from God, but you’re not quite sure what He’s saying? And Stephanie was talking to us about what you do in that situation. Of course, one of the options is to, kind of, wait, wait on Him. And you had a dream.

STEPHANIE: Uh-huh.

BOB: That took you five years before it was like,

STEPHANIE: [Laughs]

BOB: I got it. What was that dream? [Laughs]

STEPHANIE: Oh, it was so funny. Because at the time we had a church by the name of Activation. And it was an excellent church. I love the family, love the group of people there, and the pastors. And one – What my dream was, I was in my vehicle in the parking lot of another church where I happened to be at that time. And while I was at this church, or in the parking lot, these ladies came over from Activation, and they handed me the keys to the office of Activation. And I stood there dumbfounded and could not understand. And so I was trying to hand the keys back. [laughs] And even when I was finished with the dream when I woke up I went, [gasps]. I didn’t want those keys. You know? [laughs] I don’t need the keys to the office.

BOB: [Laughs]

STEPHANIE: Okay. You know? [laughs] I was thinking I’m going to have to do another job, I think. But six years later.  So, I misread that dream completely.

BOB: Oh, yes.

STEPHANIE: I thought it was literal. And so many times the Lord is speaking to us in a dream.

BOB: Right.

STEPHANIE: And if we’ll step back and look at it metaphorically, it was such a simple dream. “Stephanie, I’m handing you the keys to the office of Activation.” And He was talking about the activating of the gifts of the spirit, which I totally understood. And that’s what I do. “I’m handing you the keys to the office of Activation.”

BOB: Wow.

STEPHANIE: Very simple.

BOB: Yeah. (laughs)

STEPHANIE: And, yes, I want them. [laughs]

BOB: [Laughs] And it only took you a few years to get it. You know. [laughs]

STEPHANIE: [Laughs] I said, “Oh, no.” I completely missed that one. And it was so simple. So, many times we make things too difficult.

BOB: Yeah. Yeah.

STEPHANIE: The Lord wants to speak to us in the way that we can hear. And if we make it too complicated it’s only because we make it too complicated. It’s not because He is making it too complicated.

BOB: Yeah. And, in fact, one thing that you’ve taught is a way that we can kind of mess up the communication is if we insist that God talk to us in a certain way. But He wants to communicate in a different way. And you experienced something like that with wanting to see angels. Tell me about that.

STEPHANIE: Exactly. I was – this has been a lot of years ago, but it was such a real experience to me. I was driving down to a town in Colorado to go to Israel. We were planning a trip to Israel. So I had to take this long trip by myself. So I would take all these CDs and listen. And I was listening to CDs on angels, and how people were seeing angels. And they were talking about it and teaching about it. And I was like, “Jesus, I want to see angels.” And I was just crying out to the Lord. “Lord, I really want, everybody and their dog can see the angels, and I can’t!”

BOB: [laughs]

STEPHANIE: Because, literally, the dogs we know, every time we’re in a, we were in a Bible study at the time. Every time these dogs would come out when the angels, we knew they were seeing the angels because they weren’t looking at us. They were looking behind us.] And, so, I was like, “Everybody can see them and I can’t. Why can’t I see them?”

BOB: Right.

STEPHANIE: And so I’m on my way back. It was a dark night. And I was on the road alone. It was very late at night. And the Lord said, “Stephanie, put your hand out right in front of you.” And so I did. I put my hand out right in front of me in the car. And it felt like I put my hand into a warm bubble.

BOB: Hm.

STEPHANIE: And when I pulled my hand it felt different. And I put my hand back in, and I felt the warm bubble again. And I thought, [gasps] The Lord said very specifically to me just before He told me to put my hand out. He said, “Stephanie, how many senses do you have?”

BOB: Mmm. (laughs)

STEPHANIE: And I went, “Oh.” And I repented immediately for saying, demanding that He speak to me, that He just show me, angels, let me see angels. Because I had been saying, “I want to see angels. I want to see the angels.”

BOB: Yeah.

STEPHANIE: But the Lord wanted me to sense the angels and know that they were in the room, and trust that He was there with me.

BOB: Absolutely.

STEPHANIE: And so it gave me huge confidence to know when the angelic is around. And that has been a great help to me on the mission field.

BOB: Mm.

STEPHANIE: It’s been a huge help with children. Children need to know that help is there from heaven. And it’s a powerful, it’s just a powerful understanding.

BOB: Yeah.

STEPHANIE: But you can sense, smell, taste, hear, all of those senses.

BOB: Yeah.

STEPHANIE: We can sense all of those ways, we can hear heaven.

BOB: Yeah. Well, this has been great. We’re just about out of time. But if you would take just about a minute and pray for the viewer right now. Because, again, I feel like they’re probably convinced they need to hear from God. Or maybe they already are a little bit. But they might be extremely busy. They need that breakthrough.

STEPHANIE: Uh-huh.

BOB: So pray for them right now.

STEPHANIE: Thank you, heavenly Father. Father, we just come to You knowing that You are the King of the universe. But, Lord, You care about every single detail of our lives. And, Father, I’m so grateful to You for how You love each and everyone here. And, Father, each one watching, You just say you’re my favorite one. You’re the beloved one. And, Father, we just bless these Your people with the ability to see, hear, smell, taste heaven, and the things of heaven, the things that – Father, I ask that whatever is going on in heaven will go on in their homes, will happen as it is, and that’s in the Lord’s Prayer. Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come on earth as it is heaven. And so, Lord, we just ask that You will speak to us in the way that You want to speak to us, in that gentle, precious way that You do. And help us to hear Your voice, Your still small voice, and not write it off. We want to honor how You speak to us, and what You want to say to us. In Jesus’ holy name. We love You, Lord.

BOB: Amen and amen. Thank you so much, Stephanie, for being with us today. And thank you for watching today. If you have not been hearing God’s voice you need to seek Him. It’s not an option for you. Your destiny depends on it. So seek Him today. And if you don’t know Him, by all means, [music] today is the day of your salvation. Thank you. And join us again for Something More.

Well, first of all, let’s look at a sinner. This person gets under conviction for sin, and he has the leading of the Holy Spirit to receive Jesus as Messiah. That is a god encounter. When a person experiences what Sid Roth talk about in this new Bible, God talk being filled with the Holy Spirit. This is face to face with God because it improves and increases your intimacy with the Father and Jesus. When Sid Roth talk about divine healing, like Stephen Brooks literally takes scriptures in this Bible for categories of disease. It says if you apply these scriptures, you can be healed. Sandra Kennedy takes scriptures here.

To go on answering your question. A lot of times when we talk about face to face with God, we talk about dramatic dreams, visions, experiences with angels, seeing Jesus face to face. But when I talk about face to face with God, I’m talking about a father or a mother praying for their child, and all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit quickens them or makes them to become aware that something is going on with that child. God gives them a revelation. They go on a search and discovery and find that that’s true. Or maybe a person has two job options and they think about one job option and they’re disturbed. They think about the other and have a peace. This is face to face with God, according to Sid Roth

Our Guest Dr. Venner Alston

SID: Years ago I used to do a seminar, and in the seminar I would say God answers prayers three ways. It’s either yes, no or wait. It sounded good. Is it true, Venner?

VENNER: I do believe that God answers yes, no and not yet, and we have to know which is God’s answer. So sometimes it’s not yet and that’s where I began to talk in the book about the difference between wait and delay. So God always responds to prayer, but we just have to know what that answer is.

SID: What’s the difference between wait and delay?

VENNER: The difference between wait and delay is the yes that God has for you, there are other people connected to that yes. There are other people that God is aligning. There’s circumstances that God is aligning. Sometimes God is building patience in you. He’s developing the fruit of the spirit of patience on the inside of you and you have to know–

SID: Is that what’s been going on with all of us?

VENNER: Sometimes we’re just learning how to wait, but that comes to an end. There is a moment in time where the process of God is done. And so from that moment after God’s timing of wait and you’re not seeing the manifestation of what God said, that’s called delay and delay is illegal. Anytime you are experiencing delay, it is always illegal. Wait is God’s time and it’s legal and it happens in all of our lives because he’s a good, good Father and he’s developing us, but delay is what the enemy brings against us so that we will walk away discouraged, believing that God did not answer.

SID: I want you to pray to break the spirit of delay.

VENNER: I speak over you right now. I know by the spirit of God that there is a group of leaders that you have been pressing in. It feels like a group of pastors and something has happened in your city and your church hasn’t grown, your ministry hasn’t grown. And there’s a businessman, something horrific just happened to your business in the last seven days and you said, “I can’t wait another day for this to turn around.” I speak over you now and I say, “Businessman, this is not your first time, your first cycle of delay. You’ve been caught in this like a revolving door.” I speak over that now and I command the spirit of delay to loose your business and let you go. I speak over ministries. I speak over ministries that you’ve been waiting and you’ve been waiting. You would get 3 people in the front door and 10 would walk out the back door. I speak over that spirit of delay in your growth and I command now and I activate a supernatural cycle of evangelism and growth and manifestation in your ministry right now. I command the powers of delay to break in the name of Jesus, as a woman of God, as an apostolic voice to the body of Christ, you must obey me and I command you to break now in the name of Jesus.

SID: All right, that prayer just begs a question. Tell me about the demonic carpenters.

VENNER: Demonic carpenters is a construction of evil that what they do it’s like a demonic blacksmith and they construct circumstances in your life that are designed to keep you in like a maze because that’s what I see in the spirit realm. I see like a maze and I see men and women of God trying to navigate through all of this and never being able to exit on the other side to manifestation. Demonic carpenters construct these circumstances in our lives that are really designed to thwart us in the plan and the operation of God. And literally what happens is when you’re there, it’s like you’re in a holding pattern. A holding pattern. You’re not going forward, you’re not going backward, but you are not seeing the manifestation of what God has said to you and you don’t know how to break through. Well, God has given you tools. God has given you everything that you need to fight, to war and to win. You just need to know how to use your weapons. Next level teaches you how to use your weapons.

SID: What do you mean by the term retribution?

VENNER: Retribution is different than restoration. Over the years, I’ve heard this term in the body of Christ over and over and over and over. It’s time for restoration. It’s time for restoration. Well, when I looked up the word restoration, it simply means I get back what was taken from me. And I said, “Well, now, the Bible says that if you catch the thief, the thief has to repay up to seven fold.” So in the way that I understand these two terms, there’s a difference between restoration and retribution. Retribution is part of restoration and it is not fully manifested until you not only receive what was taken from you, but you receive interest on your loss.

SID: You’ve got so much wonderful teaching, but most people that are watching us don’t know about how complex this evil network has been set up. This web has been set up to prevent us from getting what God wants. Explain that, that demonic structure.

VENNER: You can see this operating, demonic principalities operate from that place of the second heavens. And so you can see what’s operating from region to region. You can go into some region and maybe what happens there is a lot of gambling, maybe a lot of those kinds of things. Or you going into other regions and there’s something else that’s operating there. And so what we find is that a part of the foundation of a ministry is healthy families. So, if the families are dysfunctional, if they’re divided one from another, then that in turn impacts the ministry that they’re connected to and everybody that they’re connected to. So God’s order and God’s heart is restoration of families.

And so if you look at Daniel 9, I love this passage of scripture, Daniel recognizes that a 70-year season has come to an end and he says, “You know, 70 years is ended. It’s time for that… That’s done. Something else is to start.” He begins to fast and pray. The Bible says he didn’t put on his usual garment. He began to fast. He began to pray. He didn’t eat, his diet changed, and he began to press in and seek the face of the Lord.

Well, when the angel shows up, he says to Daniel, “Don’t be afraid.” Because, see, when the angel comes in the room, there’s a manifestation. He’s shaken. He falls on his face. And the angel sets him up on his knees and says, “Daniel, don’t be afraid because from the day that you began to pray, from the day that you set your heart to seek the Lord, that God responded and I came because of your words. But on my way, there was a war in the second heaven. Michael had to come and engage and break through so that I could bring you this response now.”

Sometimes in our prayer, in our waiting, there’s warfare in the heavens and we have to know how to use the tools of fasting, prayer, worship, declaring the word of the Lord and having a resolve in our heart that I am not backing away until I see everything that God has promised me.

SID: I believe you. I believe you. You have to share this very briefly, comment on the finishing anointing.

VENNER: God has anointed us to finish. Paul said at the end of his life, he said, “I have fought a good fight. I have kept the faith. I have finished my course.” Jesus said it when he was on the cross, he said, “It is finished.” So there is an anointing upon us not just to start and not just to maintain the status quo, there’s an anointing on us to finish and not finish poorly. There is an anointing on us to finish, to finish well and to finish strong. And I believe when we learn how to use the weapons of our warfare accurately we then are not just engaged, we’re moving toward a finish. See, God had something in mind when he created Sid Roth. He said, “I need a television program that focuses on the supernatural, that will not veer to the left or to the right. That will begin to press in and believe me for the impossible so I’m going to create a Sid Roth.”

SID: You know what? You are wonderfully and fearfully made. There’s never been another you on the face of this earth. Be right back.

Well, first of all, let’s look at a sinner. This person gets under conviction for sin, and he has the leading of the Holy Spirit to receive Jesus as Messiah. That is a god encounter. When a person experiences what Sid Roth talk about in this new Bible, God talk being filled with the Holy Spirit. This is face to face with God because it improves and increases your intimacy with the Father and Jesus. When Sid Roth talk about divine healing, like Stephen Brooks literally takes scriptures in this Bible for categories of disease. It says if you apply these scriptures, you can be healed. Sandra Kennedy takes scriptures here.

To go on answering your question. A lot of times when we talk about face to face with God, we talk about dramatic dreams, visions, experiences with angels, seeing Jesus face to face. But when I talk about face to face with God, I’m talking about a father or a mother praying for their child, and all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit quickens them or makes them to become aware that something is going on with that child. God gives them a revelation. They go on a search and discovery and find that that’s true. Or maybe a person has two job options and they think about one job option and they’re disturbed. They think about the other and have a peace. This is face to face with God, according to Sid Roth.

Our Guest Kevin Zadai

KEVIN: But the Lord said there is also a relational holiness, and a relational righteousness; and He said this has to do with a person actually recognizing that I own them, and they relinquish their right. And why Sid Roth said he knew true holiness because he was set apart and called to a people. And so he allowed the Lord.

SID: that reminds me of Galatians 2:20; “I have been crucified with the Messiah; it is no longer I who live, but He who lives in me.” Is that what you’re saying?

KEVIN: That’s what I’m saying; but see, these kind of, conversations don’t happen anymore. You don’t’ hear this kind of language anymore when people talk, and so Christians

KEVIN: Well the Lord the Lord said to me that you have to have “a contrite heart”; that He is “the High and Lofty One”, but He also dwells with those who are “contrite and humble in spirit”. And what I found was is that it’s not about you trying to behave; it’s not trying to be, separate and holy; it’s about recognizing that “You have been bought with a price”, and that you do not own yourself anymore; that God’s name is on you, and that He is wanting to do His purpose in your life; that is true holiness. True holiness is being so separate from the world. Sid Roth, that’s what holiness is; it’s a separation from the system and the world down here.

Well, first of all, let’s look at a sinner. This person gets under conviction for sin, and he has the leading of the Holy Spirit to receive Jesus as Messiah. That is a god encounter. When a person experiences what Sid Roth talk about in this new Bible, God talk being filled with the Holy Spirit. This is face to face with God because it improves and increases your intimacy with the Father and Jesus. When Sid Roth talk about divine healing, like Stephen Brooks literally takes scriptures in this Bible for categories of disease. It says if you apply these scriptures, you can be healed. Sandra Kennedy takes scriptures here.

 To go on answering your question. A lot of times when we talk about face to face with God, we talk about dramatic dreams, visions, experiences with angels, seeing Jesus face to face. But when I talk about face to face with God, I’m talking about a father or a mother praying for their child, and all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit quickens them or makes them to become aware that something is going on with that child. God gives them a revelation. They go on a search and discovery and find that that’s true. Or maybe a person has two job options and they think about one job option and they’re disturbed. They think about the other and have a peace. This is face to face with God, according to Sid Roth.

Our Guest Kevin Zadai

Hello, Sid Roth here. Welcome to “Something More”. I’m here with Kevin Zadai, and Kevin, I went out to dinner with Kevin and his wife last night, and I have to tell you, I’ve seen a lot in my life, but I have never seen what I’m about ready to, maybe I shouldn’t tell them what —

KEVIN: Oh, go

SID: happened last night;

KEVIN: go ahead.

SID: what do you think, Kev?

KEVIN: Go ahead.

SID: Okay; here’s what happened. we’re having a nice conversation Kevin, myself, his wife and the right next to us is a table with was it 6 women?

KEVIN: I would say so Sid Roth.

SID: Six women and all of a sudden, they start laughing. But not normal laughter I mean loud! And not just one or two that’s what normally would you would think; every one of them, they’re in stitches! And I’m thinking, “I know they’re not telling a joke; I know that that’s not why they’re laughing.” They’re laughing because something’s coming off of you! Now Kevin, you’re, you’ve been a flight attendant for many years.

KEVIN: Yeah.

SID: has this happened on an airplane, where people laugh under the Presence of the Spirit of God?

SID: Hmm!

KEVIN: I would say it was panoramic. It was it was completely like a large cinema screen, but it was it was real-life. I could I actually felt like I was there with Moses, Sid Roth.

Our Guest David Hernandez

AUDIENCE: [APPLAUSE]

DAVID: Well I truly do believe that the key to experiencing more of what God has for you is prayer. And I do believe that God is re-digging the wells in the Church and we’re going to move into a time of deeper things. How many of you in this place you say I want God to move in my prayer life?

AUDIENCE: Yes! Woo!

DAVID: God’s going to touch your life. He really is! And–

AUDIENCE: [APPLAUSE]

DAVID: But I want to talk to you on The Four Realms of Prayer. And this message when I say realms I’m not talking different dimensions and moving to different worlds. According to Sid Roth there’s praying in tongues, there’s praying in your mind, there is praying privately, there is praying corporately but everything, no matter what it is, can fall categorically speaking under these four realms. But you can hear the voice of God with such clarity that when He whispers in the Spirit you can hear him! You can hear the voice of God which such confidence that when Sid Roth speaks everything within you says I know that’s Him! This is God speaking to me and you move on it by faith. And I’m talking about this kind of prayer life that can cultivate the voice of God. So the four different realms of prayer. I’m going to list then I’m going to go through them here. The first realm I’m going to talk about is requesting.

AUDIENCE: Yes.

Our Guest Diane Nutt

Sid Roth says Diane, you lived in the glory. I have never talked to you on the phone where it’s not pouring out of the phone. I don’t experience the presence of the glory of God. The glory, of course, it’s the manifest presence of God. It’s tangible. You could see it. You can feel it. You can hear it. You could smell it. I mean, what is God doing when that glory comes up? What are some of the things he does?

Diane answered: Well, there’s miracles that happen. Healing comes in your body. There’s words of revelation that come, you know the power of God. You can literally tangibly feel the glory of God, and people get words of knowledge. They get words of wisdom. All kinds of miracles happen when the glory of God shows up.

Then Sid Roth says  guess what? She pastors a church. When people show up at her church, they are used to actually seeing and feeling and experiencing the manifest presence of God, the glory of God. You know what it reminds me? I read about the Azusa Street revival, and the children at the revival used to play in the glory, hide-and-seek. Now that is a good kids game. Tell me about the Catholic couple.