On It’s Supernatural: Jesus demonstrated the supernatural gifts of God’s Spirit to His disciples. As they watched Him, they caught the anointing and began to do the miraculous. Learn how to walk under an open heaven.

Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent 25 years researching

the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It’s Supernatural.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here.

Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest, David Tomberlin, hears specific names of people, and then they are healed. I love it. David, when you were 21, you were on top of the world. What was going on in your life?

DAVID: Sid, I had everything going for me, looking from the outside in. I was in college. I actually was a soccer player. I had professional teams talking to me about trying out in Europe and Latin America. I had a beautiful girlfriend who was actually a model. I had my own business; I owned my own house – 21 years old – owned a couple of cars. What I would say is, if I saw my life from somebody else’s position, I would’ve been jealous of me.

SID: Isn’t it like the movies though? You see on the big screen, but you don’t know what’s going on beyond the façade.

DAVID: Yeah. Externally, things were great. This was the confusing thing about the whole thing; I couldn’t point to something that was wrong. Everything was right, but inside I was really withering away.

I was under this horrible depression.

SID: There was no real reason for it.

DAVID: There’s nothing I could point to, no financial reason, no relational reason. I was a young man, had everything going for me, and I slipped into this horrible depression, so much so that I was suicidal. All I could do was cry out to God. I remember every night I would cry for hours and hours. And I’m originally from Texas. As a young man in Texas…

SID: Men don’t cry.

DAVID: We don’t cry. It’s against the rules. It’s against the handbook. But I’d never experienced this before, and I would weep and cry for hours. Actually, a couple of time’s I planned to kill myself, planned to commit suicide. I remember one night I was watching television, it happened to be a Christian TV program. I remember telling God “God, I don’t know how much longer I can hang on, but I commit in my heart not to kill myself.” That’s what I did. The other thing that accompanied this whole depression darkness was I had a choking sensation around my neck at all times. The only time that choking sensation would go away was when I walked in the church that I attended. Then when I came back out, it would come back on. So I started going to church a lot, obviously. I was like “Can I sleep here?”

SID: Really? The only relief you would get? But there was one particular service you went to. Tell me about that.

DAVID: It was in the spring, I want to say April, of 1995. I was sitting in this service, and the gentleman who was speaking was talking about what he called the baptism of the Holy Spirit, or being immersed in God’s Spirit. I had some friends who were of a different mindset, and they told me that this wasn’t real. That’s what they told me, and they were good people, and they loved God. But I was attending the service. I remember I had been so emptied out by this experience that I told God “I don’t know if this is real or not, but I need something from You.” So at the end of the service, the gentleman who was speaking invited people, “If you want to experience this immersion in God’s Spirit, then come up to the front.” So I immediately stood up and I began to walk towards the front, what they would call the alter area. As I was walking, I felt this unusual sensation. It was like I was walking upstream in a river, as though there were water coursing through my legs.

SID: If you didn’t know you were in a building without water, you would’ve thought you were walking through water?

DAVID: Right. I just didn’t have a paradigm of the supernatural at that time. I just go “This is very odd. I’m walking up a river.” I’m having this sensation of walking up a river, yet I’m in a church service. So I get to the front, and I close my eyes. I’ve always been the kind of person where I don’t like anything fake. I don’t like people that are not genuine. I’ve always had a dislike for that. I said “God, I’m not going to fake anything, but whatever You want to give me, please give me.” Well, the gentleman was praying for people all along the front. There were probably a couple hundred people there. I was just standing there, and they were playing music, and I would close my eyes and I’d see a golden light. Every time I closed my eyes, so much to the point that I opened my eyes and asked the gentleman “Was somebody just shining a flashlight in my eyes?” because that’s what it felt like.

SID: That’s real.

DAVID: He looked at me like “No, people don’t typically do that in church. They don’t shine flashlights in your eyes.” But that was the sensation. I closed my eyes there was a bright light. I was like, this is unusual. First the water, then the bright light. I just closed my eyes. The gentleman finally got to me and put his hands on my head. And again, in the back of my mind, I’m thinking of my friends who told me this is fake. When this comes, there’s also a supernatural language that he was talking about when this takes place. I said “Lord, again, I’m not faking this. I want whatever You have for me, God. I want what You have for me, but I will not fake an experience.” I was at a low point. Faking wouldn’t help me. I needed something real. All of a sudden, this guy puts his hands on my head, and this language begins to shoot out of my mouth, almost as though I’m not creating it. I’m not making it happen, I’m almost watching it. Then as soon as that language comes out of my head, in my mind I think this: “I wonder if I’m faking this?” All I did was think it. The guy who was praying for me yelled at me, in an angry way “You’re not faking this!” I go “Wow, I guess I’m not faking this.” The next thing I know, I’m on my back. I look over to my left; I see some lady’s high heel shoes. I was raised Anglican or Episcopal, and you don’t fall on the ground in church. It’s not proper. So I go what am I doing on the ground in church, number one? Number two, how did I get here? What happened was the power of God had so hit me that I had not been able to stand under that power.

SID: I tell you what, hold that thought, because you’re going to find out about three circular evil things that come out of him, and that depression lifts. And what he has in its place, the whole world should have. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back after this word.

SID: Hello. Sid here with Kynan Bridges. And Kynan, the Word of God works in your family. It works when you teach it to other people in your congregation.

KYNAN: Yes.

SID: Tell me, when you read a promise, Jesus said that if you speak to a mountain the mountain will move. I know you literally believe that. Have you moved any mountains?

KYNAN: Actually, I have. I have moved several mountains in Jesus’ name. But one that really comes to mind is my son when he was very young. Our son Isaac is our last born son.

SID: I like that name.

KYNAN: I’m sure you do, Sid. That’s my last born son. And actually, he was born with a hernia in his belly button. It was really big, it was really wide. My wife and I, we had been meditating on Mark 11:23 where Jesus said, if you move the mountain, if you speak to the mountain and not doubting your heart, but believe in what you say will come to pass, you’ll have what you say. So I took God at His word. I said, “Well God, we don’t want this herniated belly button, so we’re going to speak to it.” And so we began to speak to it, and we said, “Belly button go down in Jesus’ name.” In four hours, it shrunk.

SID: You and your wife saw it shrink.

KYNAN: We saw it shrink, literally.

SID: What did this do for your faith?

KYNAN: It ignited my faith. Because we need to know that the promises of God work. And so when we see something happen it builds our faith. But let me say this. There is a young lady right now, your name is Danielle and you’ve been dealing with autoimmune disorder. And God wants you to know that you can speak to that mountain of autoimmune disorder, and it must obey your voice. Don’t doubt. Believe God.

SID: Your wife has been hit with a lot of sickness. I guess this is your laboratory, your wife’s laboratory. Your wife had an irregular heartbeat.

KYNAN: She did.

SID: Tell me about that.

KYNAN: Well it happened, it was actually before my daughter my born, my wife started having an irregular heartbeat and it lasted for almost three years, Sid. And we were going through this challenge. And we decided that, and it’s frustrating when you’re in the Word of God and you’re preaching the Word of God, and things begin happening in your life. It can be frustrating.

SID: But you know what? I believe it’s thrown at you to stop you from what you’re doing.

KYNAN: Absolutely.

SID: But instead, what the devil meant for evil—

KYNAN: God turned it around.

SID: Yeah.

KYNAN: He did.

SID: I like that.

KYNAN: Amen. So we were actually in a meeting, and my wife, there was a man of God that was speaking. And my wife released her faith. He received the word of knowledge and said, “Someone has an irregular heartbeat.” My wife released her faith for healing, and immediately, Sid, her heart became regular in that moment. And it’s never gone back again.

SID: I like that. The best medical science can do is they take these two panels and they put shocks on you. I like that much better.

KYNAN: That’s right.

SID: You know, you were teaching, and I was fascinated about the Passover, communion and the Exodus, and not one feeble. Teach a little bit about that.

KYNAN: Well the Bible talks about in Exodus, that when the chosen of Israel, they came out of Egypt, the Bible says, right before they came out they were instructed by God to perform the Passover, and they were supposed to eat unleavened bread and they were to roast a lamb and put the blood on the doorpost. Well the Bible says the death angel passed over, and we see that in scripture and people teach on that. But what we don’t focus on a lot is what happened after that, Sid. The Bible declares in Psalm 107 that, “There were none feeble among them, none sick.” That word means sickness. Now you have to imagine how many people would be sick after 430 years of slavery with no healthcare. There would be lepers. There would be all kinds of people with diseases. But the Bible says, when they partook of that Passover—

SID: You know what I’m thinking? The government doesn’t have the answer for healthcare.

KYNAN: That’s right.

SID: But God has the answer for healthcare.

KYNAN: Absolutely. Because Sid, what the church needs to understand is that God is a covenant God. He’s a covenant God. What that means is that He must, and I want to be clear what I’m saying, He absolutely must honor His word. He cannot, God says in Psalms that “He has said His word above all His name,” which  means that God has obligated Himself to honor His covenant. And Passover is a covenant. And what happens is that when they took that Passover it released the supernatural power of God and they were healed instantly, so that none of them were sick. But guess what, Sid, the same thing is available to the church today.

SID: Because you know what? That was a shadow. Now if on the shadow of the substance, what, how many, a couple million people?

KYNAN: That’s right.

SID: Of all ages coming from slavery.

KYNAN: That’s right.

SID: No affordable health, no doctors, no lawyers. What a world. But there wasn’t one, this is mind-blowing to me, Kynan. Not one feeble among the, not one. They had problems with their memory, not one that had cancer, not one that had heart trouble, not one that had arthritis under the shadow. What happens when you come face to face with the real thing? When we come back we’re going to do that. I promise you.

Sid:Julie True why in the world would someone have to command their soul to bless the Lord, we should all want to do this?

Julie:  Yeah, I think we do have to tell our soul to come in alignment with the Spirit of God and with our own spirit.So I totally believe that there’s a place for strengthening yourself in the Lord and just saying “Oh my soul find rest in God alone, or bless the Lord oh my soul.”

Sid:“Bless the Lord oh my soul, an all that is within me, bless His holy name.  Bless the Lord oh my soul and forget not all His benefits; who forgives all my iniquities, who heals all my diseases.  Who redeems my life from destruction.”Can you picture Julie, David saying this he’s just he reminding his soul that time and time again that God has provided for him and maybe there was some big thing that was ready to happen in his life and he had to have every fiber of his being bless the Lord.  And that’s what I want everyone that’s listening to us to be doing.  I want everything that you do in your life is because of God’s love and you want to love God with all of your heart, and because God loves you with all of His heart.  And that’s what I think of Julie when I hear your music and when I mean…Do you feel confident that God really loves you Julie True?

Julie:  Yes and when you are speaking that, just speaking that scripture and with authority and speaking it over me just then, I feel such life in that and I feel the love of God and I feel like it’s a reminder to not forget what God has done because He loves us so much. And He has totally redeemed our lives and He has called us His own. I just…Wow, that was powerful when you’re reading that just then.

Sid:I just, I’ve been really listening to your latest CDs and I am kind of overwhelmed because it’s been awhile since you’ve been a guest at the supernatural peace that is released wherever.  How would you…you know I recently moved into a new apartment.You know what I did I put Julie True’s music on I figure no demon in hell can handle that supernatural peace, you find that…tell me about the woman that puts her children to sleep with your music.

Julie:  Well, there’s…I’ve heard lots of stories about people using my music to help their children sleep at night, or even to change their sleep schedules around if they’ve gotten messed up, and their kind of waking up in the middle of the night.  But there was one lady that she actually has children staying in her house and she said that she had been playing my music for two years for two hours every day while the children in her house were taking naps.She said that my music relaxes them and puts them to sleep quickly, and that one four year old girl dreams of God regularly.  And most amazing thing to me was that there was another child that was born with half of a chin and that she had possible learning disabilities, but over this period of time her chin has totally grown out and she’s almost the smartest one here.  And she just said that she felt like my music it just made a way for God’s presence to flow in her house.

Sid:Well, your music is a release of healing I believe.For instance I want you to hear Julie True and all of her music is spontaneous and in other words God gives it to her.Even if in a concert she’ll do a song that she’s was just given this music by God. How about tell me about “Healing in Your Presence” Julie tell me about that song.

Julie:  That was another declaration that just came up in the middle of a ministry time and a soaking time. I just started singing there’s healing in your presence, there’s healing in Your presence,there’s healing in Your Name.It’s just it’s really just taking a truth of God and just singing it and the spontaneous and the moment creation of a song just brings that to life and I feel like the music just it gives a way for it to go in deep to go into people’s spirits.

Sid:Tell me about someone with Alzheimer’s that they played you music for.

Julie:  Yes I remember a lady who had been a caregiver for a person that had Alzheimer’s.They had been a really difficult patient for her and she was kind of at a loss and she just started playing my music in the house where she was taking care of this person.It completely changed their persona and made them be kinder to her they had not been being very nice.  And so I think that it’s just God’s presence you know it’s just making away for Him to begin…

Sid:You know your music really just kind of tenderizes peoples’ hearts, makes them sensitive to hearing God and walking in the Spirit; has anyone told you that?

Julie:  I know that one lady did tell me that she said that “I feel like that you translate God’s response to every wounded spirit into these musical notes.  And that the musical notes resonate in her spirit,” and so I love that, I love to hear that.

Sid:Well, let’s hear “Healing In Your Presence.”

Julie True “Healing in Your Presence”

Sid:  There is an outpouring of God’s Spirit; it’s called “The Glory” it’s literally invading Planet Earth.  My guest David Herzog has been operating under the Glory for many years and he’s written a brand new book called “Glory Invasion” and the purpose of the book is for you to catch the revelation of the Glory and then literally you’re prayers start being answered instantly.  And we’re coming into that time and season, you see God wants to have mercy on planet earth and He needs every one of us operating in the Glory of God.  David give me just a couple of suggestions as to how our Mishpochah can move into the Glory. Do you start worshipping God; for people that haven’t moved into it what do you recommend?

David: The best thing to do when you start coming in time with God I would not start just telling him what your needs and wants and binding or warfare.  Just like you said, the best thing is come with praise and worship that’s the first thing you want to do and just begin to praise Him, praise Him worship Him and you do that as long as you need to do that until that heavy, heavy presence and the Glory comes on you you’ll sense and you’ll feel a breakthrough at first and then you get it stronger and stronger, and then you’ll get so light and when that heavy, heavy presence comes then you just begin praying as God leads you.  So I would put away your prayer list and just worship Him, give Him give Him what He wants, let the Glory come; and then just talk to God.

Sid:  Do you normally use worship music or not?

David: I do it helps you to get in the Spirit you have a whole band behind you when you put a CD in there it really helps.  But there is different kind of worship helps different people but you know try to get a good praise and worship that leads you into the glory.  And for everybody it’s going to different you know types of worship or music that helps them.

Sid: Well, just as you’re speaking right now I sense the glory; the glory has just come into this studio. David could you move in the Spirit?

David: Yes, there’s miracles happening right now as people are listening I saw someone’s eyes being healed right now the retina in your eyes and you got stigmatism, others have glaucoma, spots, blindness, partial blindness I see eyes being healed right now.  So in the Name of Jesus I just declare eyes be healed, eyes open up, stigmatisms, glaucoma, spots go in Jesus Name and be healed right now.  Thank you Father God, I see someone with nerve damage being healed, a another person they just had a car accident I think a couple of weeks ago I’m seeing you injured one side of your body you can hardly feel or move one side of your body and God’s healing it bringing strength and feeling back to your body in the Name of Jesus.  A hip replacement I’m seeing, God’s replacing a hip and there’s all kinds of miracles, there’s bones being recreated right now, bones that are missing, God’s recreating bones, bone tissue we command the cells in the bone in the molecular structure of the bone to begin to grow right now in the Name of Jesus there’s a growth that’s disappearing tumors.  I command tumors and growths in the glory just to be gone in Jesus mighty Name; His will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.  In Heaven there’s no tumors, there’s no sickness and just as you walk in that realm of Glory I just thank You God that these sicknesses are going right now.  Someone’s got major diabetes and you take insulin and God’s healing you right now of diabetes in Jesus Name we command it to go.  Blood sugar problems are being regulated.  Right now a disc in the lower back is being recreated right now in Jesus Name we command that disk in the lower back to be reformed, repositioned and recreated in Jesus Name. There’s skin diseases being healed, someone got a major burn recently I see your skin all red and God’s healing your burn right now and causing new skin to grow over that skin.  I even see someone with a tattoo and you’ve been asking the Lord about “What do I do with this tattoo I don’t want it anymore it has some demonic symbol on it.”  And I see the tattoo beginning to fade supernaturally, we’ve seen this happen three times but in Jesus mighty name we command the tattoo to begin disappearing supernaturally begin fading right now in the Name of Jesus as a sign and as a wonder.  And there’s lots of people getting gold teeth and gold fillings and gold crowns.

Sid:  That seems to happen a lot when you minister in the Glory, the gold teeth.

David: Yeah, it’s just one of the things that happen a lot in the meetings.

Sid: Now I noticed a number of people had no feeling until they looked in their mouth and found that there was gold there they didn’t have any strange feeling in their mouth but when they looked they saw their teeth were gold.

David: Yeah, most of the time people don’t feel anything they just look and then there it is and they’re shocked it’s exciting. We see people with no teeth grow teeth, we’ve been seeing that the last couple months where people are missing whole teeth.  We were in Saint Thomas, Virgin Island and a whole full grown tooth appeared where there was no tooth and the lady just freaked out, she didn’t know what to do she told everybody in town but she was so scared she didn’t come back the second night until the last night she just couldn’t believe what God did.  So it’s fun when God does some miracle to the point where it almost freaks them out and they have to really think about it.

Sid:  But you know the purpose of these miracles are signs and wonders for people to recognized that the Kingdom of God has invaded planet earth.  I am so sick of turning on television and seeing the cheap counterfeit of the authentic, the authentic is the Kingdom of God; the counterfeit is the New Age the kingdom of the devil.  And it has free reign on television and it’s about time if God’s children don’t take this Glory out and manifest His presence the devil isn’t shy.

David: Exactly and we almost can’t blame him because like I said on one of the interviews the church has let them down; a lot in the New Age actually went to Church first looking for God to show up and they didn’t see Him it was dead religion so then they figure “Well, these people may have something; so we owe it to our generation to move in the Glory in signs and wonders so that they see there’s a difference there’s another option it’s not just the demonic power.”

Sid: Now what is your belief in prayer of people that read your brand new book “Glory Invasion” what’s going to happen to them?

David: I believe as a lot of people as they read the book if they’re honestly hungry and thirsty are going to move into incredible things, they’re going to read the book and move into…not just creative miracles, healings, signs and wonders but they are going to start understanding how they have authority over creation, literally over creation command a tornado to stop instantly.  Just a body parts to be recreated, say objects that are lost to call them back like Elijah did with the floating ax-head.  Understanding how Jesus went through walls when He was resurrected He went right threw the wall and disappeared.  How people are transported they’ll under and have a greater faith for literally being transported maybe while they’re driving their car and suddenly they’re from point A to Point B in a split second.

Sid:  Listen with what is going on right now on planet earth to be able to move in the power of the word in the Glory of God you give an example in your book of John G. Lake who had so many miracles happen in the United States and in Africa.  Tell us quickly about what happened.

David: Oh, he had so many miracles; one of the miracles I remember was he was in his room praying, this is what I read.  He was praying and praying for this lady to be healed interceding basically for another lady who was somewhere else at her house sleeping most likely just praying for her.  And the lady says that she saw him walk in her room lay hands on her and she was instantly healed.  So the next day or so she contacted him and thanked him for coming into her house and praying for her.  He said, “I was never in your house I was in my house interceding for you,” but basically she saw him as if he was there.  So it shows how when you’re in that glory realm there’s no  time or distance you can literally be having a dream one night that you went to Africa and three weeks later you go to Africa and they say “Oh you were here three weeks ago, it literally happened.

Sid:  And you know Mishpochah I know in David’s ministry and in my ministry we have been translated but not to that magnitude, I don’t know about you David but yours hasn’t been to that magnitude has it?

David: No not yet.

Sid:  But is it going to be?

David: It’s going to be yes, I haven’t gone that far yet but…

Sid: Actually the story I was talking about was the story about John G. Lake when he was in Africa and he was working among those that had the plague and they were dying and they didn’t want him to go in.  So to prove that he could go in what did he do?

David: Yeah, well everyone was dying of this plague so he’s praying for the sick with no protection no nothing and I think it was the government workers or the medical workers that had all their gloves or equipment on said, “How are you doing this without equipment, without protection, how are you touching these people and not getting the virus?”  He said, “Well, let me show you the virus,” he puts it under a microscope and he says “Now look in the microscope and she what happens when I touch the virus.”  With the power of God on his hands they could literally see like something all over him like an energy or fire on his hands; he would touch the virus and it would shrivel up and died basically and the scientists were astounded.  And he said, “That’s the power of God” he showed them that he’s got greater power than the virus.

Sid:  And you know speaking of virus many prophetic people think that maybe be next thing the terrorist are going to try in the United States, but I believe when we’re walking in the Glory of God 24-7 no weapon formed against us can prosper.

David: Amen, and I think we are going to have an opportunity to see mass resurrections too. As you said, “There’s going to have to be a lot of dead people to see mass resurrections but there’s going to be situations where that will happen and we’ll be able to call forth a death back to life and body parts recreated.  And it will be like Ezekiel’s bones all over again, Ezekiel 37.

Sid:  Let it happen quickly, actually it is happening right now, I believe that’s why God had you write the book, I believe that’s why you’re listening to us right now…R.W. Shambach witnessing the greatest miracle he ever saw in his life it was under the ministry of A.A. Allen.  And this young child comes forward with 26 diseases, should have been dead, he saw the eyeballs form before his very eyes, he saw the club feet straighten out before his very eyes.  David I believe that this is going to be normal Christianity in the days we’re living in.

David: Amen.

Sid:  Is that why you call your book “Glory Invasion?”

David: Yeah, I think God wants to invade every area on this earth not just a little touch here and there but literally take over whole cities and whole areas, whole regions with the Glory of God literally Iike an Open Heaven over regions.

Sid: Well, you know this summer we’re going to have a major conference I believe it’s going to be a release of the One New Man Glory.  It’s going to be on August 23; I’ve invited friends of mine that have little bits of the puzzle and we’re going to put it all together.  Five-fold people from every spectrum from prophets to evangelists to signs and wonders to understanding the house church, to understanding intimacy with God; if you want the brochure call our 800 number they’ll send you the brochure.

Sid:  Don’t you understand that the Messiah is coming back quickly and there are so many people that are literally being talked out of their faith right now, and all the way back to elementary school and junior high and senior high and college. Parents don’t even know the answers to the basics of what they’re saying to undermine belief in the Bible.  And we have got a book by my friend James Nienhuis it’s called “Old Earth Why Not” and he proves why it isn’t old.  There are so many areas that are so fascinating; you’ll want to read this book yourself you’ll want to understand, especially if you’re a teacher, and then you’ll want to help young people understand. The book is written in such a way that not only will the young people understand this and be able to defend their faith but they’ll get saved.  I mean they’re going to be so fascinated for instance; you have an area in your book Jim in which you talk about the predictions of the Messiah’s incarnation.  Now in Judaism and Islam they’re very upset about such things as God having a son as the virgin birth.  Explain why you believe this; in fact you go over even what the odds are of these prophecies as so many of them coming to pass.

James:  Yes, maybe we’ll see if you a few conversions of gamblers. (Laughing)

Sid:  Well, let’s go for it. (Laughing)

James:  (Laughing) To begin you know God says or the word says, the word is Jesus of course the word became flesh and dwelt among us.  In Genesis the word says “Let us make man in our image,” the word is Elohim “Let us make man in our image.” So that’s the trinity, God the Father, Jesus the word and the Holy Spirit, you know who empowers us and you know gets done in the earth what he wants done.  So there is the trinity in Genesis so let no one say that God is just one part of the God head is not true.  The Hebrews will have to admit it says Elohim plural so it’s kind of case closed on that.  And there’s predictions all through the Old Testament about the word becoming flesh and dwelling among us, Emanuel “God with us.”  You know that term is used in the Old Testament, Emmanuel God with us, that is to say that God would come down to be in flesh form and to die and to resurrect to be the Messiah which was not what a lot of the Jews were expecting at Jesus time.  They were expecting a military victory not a victory conquering death it would bring all the nations to God through the children of Abraham as God told Abraham.  But in Micah for instance it says that “Messiah would be born in Bethlehem.”  Now at the time of Christ there was about 2000 towns, villages in Israel so that in and of itself is rather miraculous that the town was predicted.

Sid:  It even goes further than that, Micah says Bethlehem of Judea and there were five Bethlehem’s at the time it just happened to be Bethlehem of Judea, it got even more precise.

James:  Well, thank you very much Sid, that’s good to know I did know that.  King David, I believe it was King David who wrote this Psalm around a thousand BC, predicted that Messiah, but Emanuel elsewhere written in the Old Testament and God with us.  Would be pierced in his hands and feet, now that speaks crucifixion method but David must have scratched his head how strange. For you see the crucifixion of torture and death by the state wasn’t invented until 300 years after David.  So this was like something David probably scratched his head about but there it was manifested in Christ, death on a cross.

Sid:   It shows we have to follow what God says even if our peanut brain says “Tilt.”

James:  Oh, absolutely, yes David did write it down never the less didn’t he?  (Laughing) As well you know I forget which verse it is in the Old Testament Sid maybe you can help me but anyway it’s important.

Sid:  Its Zachariah 11:12.

James:  Yes, well it just predicted that he would be betrayed for thirty pieces of silver and that money would be used to buy burial plots for poor foreigners.  Now come on! The interesting thing about what’s written in the New Testament which reveals the manifestations of the accuracy of these ancient prophecies is that the people where around they were still alive at the time that Christ was crucified when the first gospels were being distributed around 80 AD, 90 AD, a 100 AD.  A lot of those people were still around and none of them Sid can contested the accuracy of what is written in the New Testament nobody questions it.  There is no record of it even the Romans attest to the Christians movement caused by this man Crestus who is “killed in Palestine.” Palestine a meaningless term of course and that’s only where the Philistines live.  You know in their time frame.  So you know the evidence is the predictions for Christ coming are there’s 48 major specific prophecies like the two or three I just sighted.

Sid:  Right.

James:  48 of those Sid and there’s like 300 more Minor prophecies in total in the Old Testament all having been fulfilled in Jesus manifestation 2000.  But the odds of only 48 of them manifested as they did in His life the odds of only 48 of them happening are the odds of picking out a red grain of sand out of a universe full of white colored gains of sands, a blind man doing it.  Those are the odds.

Sid:  Those are no odds, I mean that’s off the chart.  Let me ask you because I am just overwhelmed over the potential of your book “Old Earth Why Not?”  Because I know what our kids are being hit with, I know that many adults like myself accepted some of the accounts in Genesis purely by faith because the scientific evidence looked overwhelming on the other side, but you explain why they’re all myths.  Of all of the myths that you talk about in this book and I have to say that I love what you do at the end because you lead the person right to Jesus and they actually can come to know the Messiah.  But of all the myths in the book, what do you, if you could talk to John Q. Evolutionist, John Q. Atheist and you had to pull one out what would be the one you would talk about?

James:  I would have to say that the intertwining, the commonality, let us say it this way, the commonality of ancient people groups histories is astounding.  The Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Egyptians the Hittites, the Hebrews, the Israelis, the Israelites, the ancients they all speak of a global flood. And they all have knowledge of Adam and Eve the first man, they have different names for that and there.  Now if the Israelis dreamed all this up around the time of the Babylonian captivity as the skeptics of the Bible say they dreamed it all up it’s all mythology. Then why do all of these other ancient people groups recollects jive with what written in the Bible and so many important basic ways?  You know global encompassing flood; 10 generations of patriarchs before the flood as recounted in the ancient Babylonian legends and some Indian legends of the America.  On and on constant commonalities of themes and recollections of history which belie that that the Israelites dreamed it all up at the time of Moses or later.  That’s really what sticks out in my mind.

Sid:  And if you were to have one shot at the question of why the world cannot be 6,000 years old; that’s just a fairytale what would be the one statement you would make?

James:  Well, this is covered in the age of the universe chapter you know the earth is supposedly billions of years old, well check this out there’s a scientist say that there was an exploded planet in or solar system and those are the debris from that is the comets we see orbiting in our solar system.

Sid:  Right.

James:  Okay, they all should have ejected, burned up by going near planets or impacted planets; all of them Sid within 10,000 years.  And so you know how the scientists get around that they contrive, they made up the Ork cloud which is a supposedly a comet manufacturing plant just outside of our solar system of which there is no evidence.

Sid:  And that’s the simple reason why it’s not true, there is no evidence.

James:  Plus the reason is that there is something out there that we have no evidence of.

Sid:  So why do they teach all of these things as fact in the universities?

James:  Well, when you can make us stuff like the Ork cloud, and you can make up stuff like missing links of which there are zero, then you can go on some.  If you can make people believe that sedimentary rocks up on the continents got there by anything other than water being up on the continents laying down these vast layers that are stacked like pancakes grading into each other you can pull off all that then you got a class in the public school Sid and it rock and roll time.

Sid:  Jim Nienhuis I want to thank you so much for writing the book “Old Earth Why Not?”  And I’ve got a passion for your children and grandchildren and even you to understand the book of Genesis it’s based on truth!

Sid:  We want everyone everywhere to understand the times and seasons that were living in. Because the United States of America is the greatest country in the world there’s no guarantee in scripture it will remain the greatest country in the world.  And as a matter of fact my guest is a terrorism expert, she’s a former World News Anchor in Arabic language television station in the Middle East. She’s author of the New York Times bestselling book “Because They Hate.”  Bridgette Gabriel you have written in your book it’s your life story but it’s a prophetic life and unless we wake up in America what you lived is going to happen here.  Perhaps let’s go back to what Lebanon was like when you were a little girl, and why what happened in Lebanon is just a forerunner of what is about ready to happen in America unless there are drastic changes and people wake up!

Bridgette:  Exactly Sid, I come from Lebanon. Lebanon use to be the only majority Christian country in the Middle East. We were open-minded, we were fair, we were tolerant, we were multicultural, we prided ourselves in our multiculturalism. We had open border policy, we welcomed everyone from all the surrounding Arabic nations.

Sid:  Sounds like you were really politically correct way before we knew the word.

Bridgette:  Exactly, we were politically correct because as an Arabic speaking country who spoke the Arabic language yet the majority were Christian people who had the Christian-Judeo value system.  We prided ourselves in giving the Muslims the opportunity to pray from the mosques in our country, or the Jews were able to pray in their temples, and the Christians ring the church bells all at the same time.  We created harmony that was so foreign to the Arabic countries surrounding us in the Arabic culture; we welcomed the students to come from the Arabic world; we had built the best universities in the Middle East because education is an anchor in the foundation of the Judeo-Christian culture.  We had built the best universities in the Arabic would, Muslims send their children to study in our universities, they graduated and then worked in our economy because we had built the best economy in the Middle East.  Even though we did not have any oil, but sadly Sid all that was hanging in the balance because as the years went by we got our independence in the ‘40s from France and we were good in business, we focused on growing the country.  But by the time around the ‘60s the Christians had become the minority and Muslims became the majority simply because they multiply at a must faster pace than we do.

Sid:  Is that going on today worldwide?

Bridgette:  I write in my book “Because They Hate” that the Muslims are out reproducing us 7:1 worldwide.

Sid:  So all they have to do is wait especially in democracies and then they can take over.

Bridgette:  Exactly and Lebanon being such a small country, we talk about the perfect example of what’s coming to the world.  Once they became the majority they declared war on the Christians and started killing the Christians.  The problem became aggregated with the influx of the Palestinians out of Jordan when King Hussein kick them out and Lebanon was the only country to accept the third wave of Palestinian refugees into the country.

Sid:  But why were they killing the Christians?  Why didn’t they just force them to cooperate and follow Islamic law?

Bridgette:  Well, they tried to force the Christians to cooperate and the leftist Christians marched with the Muslims, wanted more Islamic right, but the Maronite Christians put their feet down and they said “No, this is a Christian country this is a Christian area and we’re not going to let you infringe on our life the way that you want to.”  So by the mid ‘70s the Muslims and the Palestinians would set up fly by night check points, and they would stop cars traveling and they would get people out of their cars and look at their IDs.  And in the Middle East our religion is written on our ID you either a Christians, a Muslim or a Jew.  So when the Muslims would find that this was a Christian car traveling, Christian family they would get them out of the car and shoot them in cold blood.  The word traveled fast, Christians became prisoners in our home and our communities.  The Muslims began terrorizing the Christians, they either wanted us to convert or get out.  The war began in 1975 and that’s when the Muslims blew up my home and bringing it down burying me under the rubble wounded as perpetrators shouted “Allahu akbar.”

Sid:  Bridgette I am told that before the radical Muslim got control, and before the war, that Lebanon and in particular Beirut they were the most beautiful cities, most beautiful country.

Bridgette:  Yes, they were.  Lebanon became Paris of the Middle East; Lebanon became Switzerland of the Middle East.  This is where the Arabs Sheiks use to come with their families to enjoy a good life and family atmosphere.  And my country offered them what their country forbid, but sadly all that became toppling down when the radical Islamist took control of the country and started killing the Christians.  What Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian Muslims came into the country that’s what really tipped the scale because they formed the majority block who wanted to create a base.  Yasser Arafat wanted to create a base from which to fight Israel, kill the Jews and throw them into the sea.  Something he tried to do in Jordan, but failed because of the dictatorship of the king but he was able to do it in Lebanon using our fairness, our tolerance, our open mindedness and our democracy and multiculturalism to topple our democracy.  And we refuse to read the writing on the wall; we buried our head in the sand thinking “No, you know we need to be tolerant you know we should not judge others.”  What does the Bible say “Judge not less you be judged.”  So we could not believe, we would not take our enemy at their word when they said, “That they wanted to destroy our way of life and establish an Islamic base,” because we could not believe that those whom we had taken in, educated, gave jobs, gave homes, gave them a good life, elevated their way of life in comparison to the rest of the Arabic world; we could not believe that they could turn against us and kill us, and that’s exactly what they did!  The Muslims and the Palestinians started massacring the Christians starting in 1975.

Sid:  Up until that point I bet there were so many people that said, “We can get along, just compromise a little, let them have what they want,”

Bridgette:  Exactly, the Christian leftist in the country sided with the Muslims thinking that “We should give them what they want, why not give them Islamic traditions in their areas?”  Why not let them do this that and the other; and when the Muslims began massacring the Christians when they would go into towns and massacre thousands of people and when they would go into these leftist Christians who marched with them and did all this stuff with them the Christians would say “You can’t kill us we were on your side, we demonstrated with you, we were the ones that pushed for you to have this law and that law.”  And the Muslims would look at them and say “You are nothing more than filthy infidels and you are no different than all the others” and they would massacre them.  These are the stories we heard from those that escaped and came to hide in our conservative areas, the Christians who fought the Islamic rise in Lebanon, but by that time, by the time those Christians woke up it was too late to reverse the tide; the damage had been done.  And this is why in America we’re trying to speak out right now.

Sid:  Is it too late for America?

Bridgette:  No, America is at stage two cancer, Europe is at stage three cancer. America we can still kill the cancer in our midst and save ourselves.

Sid:  Tell me about the first time that a missile came into your house.

Bridgette:  The Muslims surrounded our town trying to take it over. They launched multiple missiles into the army base above my house trying to take over the town.  I live right under the military base; the Muslims missed the military base and their bombs fell on my home bringing it down and burying me under the rubble wounded as they shouted “Allahu akbar.” My only crime was that I was a Christian living in a Christian town.  I ended up wounded and ended up in a hospital for two and a half months. While lying in the hospital I would ask my parents, “Why did they do this to us?”  And my parents would tell me because we are Christians the Muslims want to kill us because they consider us infidels.  So I knew since I was ten years old that my only crime was that I was born into the Christian faith and lived in a Christian town.

Sid:  Tell me about the time a missile came into your apartment and almost took your mother’s life.

Bridgette:  Well, actually after the Muslims destroyed my home we ended up living in a bomb shelter.

Sid:  How did you happen to have bomb shelters all over Lebanon?

Bridgette:  Well, in our area in South Lebanon we had built the bomb shelter because the Lebanese government was giving money to people in southern Lebanon on the border with Israel to help them build bomb shelter because supposedly the Jews are going to come and slaughter the Arabs.  So here we were living in a bomb shelter that was built with money by the Lebanese government that my father has built and this is where we ended up living for seven years of our lives. It ended up Israel came and defended the Christians while we were living in the bomb shelter from the Muslims who the Muslims came, our fellow Lebanese Muslims wanted to come and slaughter us.

Sid:  But at that time if someone had said to you, you were a young girl at that time, “What is your opinion of Israel and the Jews, what kind of opinion would you have had?”

Bridgette:  Well, as a child you know in my home I was taught love and compassion as a Christian home, we don’t teach hatred, but in my schools and on television and on the radio and in society around me because that time South Lebanon was majority Muslim.  My Father owned a restaurant I would be sitting at the restaurant at night and I would hear people talking on the tables around me.  They would say “Yizraeel, Yizraeel.” Yizraeel is the name of devil in Arabic, the Jews are evil, they are barbaric, they are the cause of the problem in the world; and the only time that we would have peace in the Middle East was when we kill all the Jews and throw them into the sea.”

Sid:  And at that time so as a child you must have believed that.

Bridgette:  Well, as a child you know I was five, six, seven years old I didn’t have any other opinion to make, I was taught not to hate anybody, but I really didn’t have any other opinion.  At ten years old I knew that the Jews came to save our lives once we were attacked by the Muslims because it was Israel who came to defend us because the Christians in my town went to Israel and begged for help.

Sid:  Bridgette we’re out of time right now, we’ll  pick up here on tomorrows broadcast.

Sid:  We want everyone everywhere to have the gifts of the Holy Spirit so stirred up within you that you plain can’s keep quiet, you’ve got to tell everyone everywhere the good news because that’s the message.  We’re told to go into all the world and proclaim the good news and to make disciples, and we left it to the paid professionals, and praise God for the paid professionals but things are about ready to change.  My guest Barbie Breathitt she would agree with that, are things ready to change I mean I don’t won’t same old, same old anymore.  The whole religious system we have Jesus came into the synagogue, and the only acceptable way to be right with God 2,000 years ago. He says tradition has made void the word of God.  What do you think about that Barbie?

Barbie:  Tradition does void out the power of God and that’s why God is releasing the winds of change now that are going to begin to blow through the body of Christ, and it’s going to bring a shaking, and it’s going to change the way that church does business.  The things that man has built for man’s purposes or man’s programs those things are going to disappear.  The Lord is going to bring in His order and it’s going to be the way it was in Pentecost with the signs, wonders and miracles. People spilling out onto the streets and bringing in a harvest and coming in with the multitudes coming in because of the greatness of God being demonstrated through His Spirit, through His power.

Sid:  Now what I love about your ministry is you go with the team of people to New Age fairs or renaissance fairs, tell me about one renaissance fair.

Barbie:  We dressed up like pirates, went to a renaissance fair, they started out in the fortune tellers booth, she wasn’t going to be there but she ended up showing up so they moved us under this oak tree to interpret dreams there and give encouraging words and healing prayers.  And this one sixteen year old girl showed up and she had already had a heart transplant, but now she had cancer in her kidneys and I said, “Her mom was disappointed because they missed being able to fly her when a kidney became available because they didn’t have the money to hire their plain to get her there on time.”  So I just simply told her I said, “I believe this is your day of divine appointment that God has us here if you allow me to pray for her I believe will heal her of cancer in her kidneys.”  So she came into the booth and I told the little girl I said, “What’s going to happen is when we begin to pray for you you’ll hear the wind begin to blow in these tree tops and it will be a sign to you that the Lord is sending His healing angels and the Holy Spirit which as a wind is coming in.”

Sid:  How did you know that?

Barbie:  It was a word of knowledge I felt impressed by the Holy Spirit that she needed a sign to activate here faith because her mother had said, “Oh, go ahead knock yourself out, but we’ve been prayed for by all the greats and nothing has ever happened and she’s never felt anything.”  And I simply told her, I said, “I am not great, I said but the God that I serve is He is a great God and He’s the healer.”  So I said, “As a sign to you this is what’s going to happen,” and sure enough God fulfilled the vision that he gave me of the wind blowing and the healing anointing was released.  And I said, “Do you feel your back getting hot,” because I had reached around and placed my hands where her kidneys were and I said “You’ll feel a heat.”  And her little face began to shine with a light and her eyes began to flutter and tears began to come down her face and I said, “You feel Him don’t you?”  And she said, “Yes, I feel Him, it’s like liquid love or it’s warmth flowing all over me.”  So that day at the renaissance fair I believe that little girl was healed of cancer in her kidneys because she couldn’t get a transplant to get another human kidney. but God has kidneys in heaven, and so he dispatched His angels with a new pair of kidneys and brought them there to renaissance fair.  And there was one of the other guys who came into the fair grounds that helped us set up the tent so he kept coming in and he’d been in every kind of a cultic thing I’ve ever heard of and he would talk about traveling in the realm of the spirit where he would see fairies and things like that.  I’m always polite and I’ll listen but I said, “Don’t you think that seeing fairies is kind of low level?”  And he said, “What do you mean?”  I said, “Well, I mean when I travel in the Spirit I see angels, and the glory of God and the crystal sea.”  And he says, “Who is your spirit guide?”  And I said, “Well, my Spirit’s guide’s name is Holy.”  And he said, “Well, I never heard of him before.”  And I said, “Well, Holy Spirit is the greatest most powerful spirit guide in the whole world, his job is to lead and guide us into all truth and I said, “He’s the Spirit of love and he comes from the Almighty Creator God of the Universe who created you and he created me.”  And I said, “When you follow God,” I said “Then you’re able to see a much higher level than the fairies” and I said, “Because that’s low level.”    And he said, “I never met anyone like you, you must be a Christian Mystic.”  And I took that as a compliment and I said, “Yeah the Lord is wanting to make Himself known to you and I said “There’s a place in your back that’s causing you a great pain,” And I said, “Would you allow me to lay hands on you, Holy Spirit wants to heal you.” And his face began to contort and his hands began to contort and he ran out of the booth, but he came back and visited us at least three other times but he would not allow the impartation of the Holy Spirit to come to him because of the different thing that he had been involved in and the dark realm would not allow the encounter.  But I believe that it planted a seed in his heart and eventually.

Sid:  It’s interesting that he ran away from the presence of God.

Barbie:  Well, I think that it was the demons within him he said, “I’ve gota go, I’ve gotta go I can’t stay any longer,” But he came back, he came back, he kept coming back, he came and visited us three and four times.  And I think every time he came into the presence of God I think he was set free a little bit more, and little bit more, and a little bit more.

Sid:  Barbie I want you to put on the mantle of a prophetess and I want you to pray as God directs for those that are listening right now.

Barbie:  Lord I just speak that limitations will be taken off of people where we have known You in a form or followed the tradition that You would cause those things to fall off us and we would allow You to come out of the box; if we’ve seen You boxed in limitations within us or in our level of belief Lord we say “Come, Holy Spirit and broaden us, lengthen us, strengthen us, stretch us Lord and allow us to hear You and see You and that we would move in Your Spirit, Your power, Your might.”  ‘And Lord, let us be contagious and everywhere that we go Your Spirit would flow out of us just like it did with Peter as he walked the streets his shadow falling upon people, healed them and delivered them.’  “Lord, I ask that You would pour out that Spirit upon each one of us that our Spirit would be so large, so enlightened by Your presence and Your power that it would permeate everywhere that we would go in the realm of business, in the realm of church, in the market place, airports, restaurants, renaissance fairs, New Age fair that the truth would come forth; that Holy Spirit would lead and guide each one of us into a more powerful revelation of who Jesus is, and we would know Him in Spirit and in Truth. That we would move into a demission that we’ve never moved; so take us from where we are Lord and launch us out into the realm of faith, into the realm of the miraculous, into the realm of believing for the impossible for nothing is impossible with God.”

Sid:  Barbie, when you were in heaven or other times, did God ever give you insight into whether you would be alive when Jesus returns?

Barbie:  One of the times when I was in heaven I didn’t want to come back, I told the Lord, I want to stay and I was standing before the throne and like all I could see was this huge light, and the cloud of glory that encompassed the throne, but out of that cloud stepped Jesus and He walked to me and I could see Him face to face and He walked to me.  And He said, “Barbie you can’t stay because it’s not your time yet, you have to go back and fulfill your destiny.”  So I believe I will be alive, you know when you’re in heaven you don’t want to come back to earth no matter how wonderful your life is, how many people love you, how great the anointing is; when you’re in the presence of God all you feel is that perfect love and you want to stay, but there’s also destiny that each one of us has that we need to fulfill and that’s what the Lord has said, “It’s not your time yet, you must go back.”  And it was neat because he even had angels bring chair so I could sit in and it was a solid gold chair with jewels all through the back of it and it was just the most beautiful thing you could have ever seen.  Because I couldn’t stand in His presence, I was just like liquid, but the love is everywhere, so I feel like I will be alive when His second return comes, but I don’t know how old I’ll be.

Sid:  I have to tell you this for years as a up front type of Jewish evangelist, which I am, I would say that the signs are here and He could come in my lifetime, but in my heart of hearts I didn’t believe that but I wouldn’t say it because I didn’t know.  But lately I’ve been believing that I will be alive when He returns and I’m sixty-seven.

Barbie:  I believe that because if you look at Israel the specifically Jerusalem that’s the time piece and if you watch what’s happening with Israel and different Bible prophecies that have been fulfilled the time is drawing near, just like I was focusing on dreams and visions.  In Acts it says that “In the last days I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh and they’ll dream dreams and they’ll have visions and they’ll prophecy.”  So God has given us the keys that He is going to release in this end time revival to go forth and do the signs and wonders through dreams, visions and prophecy.  And so as the church is trained in this and they began to get these keys they’re also going to have their churches full because of the knowledge of the Lord will fill the house.

Sid:  My guest David Herzog and David’s been a guest a number of times on Messianic Vision, but he has a brand new book it’s literally just off the press, it’s called “Ancient Portals of Heaven.”  And he maintains that because of anti-Semitism a lot of these portals have been stolen from the church stolen from believers.  But I can tell you something David, there is a portal that’s going on right now on our appointment because there is a flow of the anointing of the presence.  One of the things that you talk about in your new book is the Elisha anointing, explain.

David:  Yeah, well we know that everyone teaches about the Elijah anointing, but Elisha is supposed to get at least a double portion.  So we are in the last days so I think we need all the help that we can get.  We would love to have a double portion, or as much as we can of God and of His mantle and of His anointing and His glory.  So basically Elisha followed Elijah all the way to the end and got a double portion.  The book of Malachi the last book that we see in the Old Testament before Jesus appears in the New Testament, Yeshua says that “I will turn the hearts of the Father’s back to the children and the children back to the Fathers less I strike the land with a curse.”  And it also says that I will restore the Spirit of Elijah will be restored; so connecting Elijah with restoring the hearts of the children back to the parents, parents back to the children.  The Lord began to show me that actually is the hearts of the children back to their parents, is not just spiritual fathers like I don’t know like Charles Finney or the great revival of Azusa or beyond.  It goes all the way back to our forefathers the Israelites, the Jewish apostles and as we do that and honor Israel, basically who gave us the gospel, we can get that double portion. In the Bible the first born usually got the double portion, the blessing.  And so even to this day I believe Jewish people, many of them on the earth today are very very blessed in many many ways, there’s still that double portion blessing.  Gentiles can tap into the double portion blessing if they would honor and bless and help the Jewish people in Israel.  Ruth is a great example, she was Gentile but she followed her Jewish mother-in-law and helped her.  Brought her all the way to where she needed to go and she met Boaz and married Boaz.  Boaz said, “I’m going to give you double the grains, double the favor, double than the other servant girls because you have helped this Jewish woman.”  So there is a double portion blessing I believe will come on your ministry, on miracles, on finance, on everything if we would begin to honor our spiritual parents, Israel and the Jewish people, by praying for their salvation, helping them in any way possible, loving them, protecting them, it would be a double portion blessing that would come.  And I believe our ministry we are seeing that already, we are seeing favor that we didn’t pray for that just comes on us because we do that principal.

Sid:  That’s what I want to ask you are you seeing an increase in the amount of miracles and amount of salvations, the amount of God’s glory in recent days?

David:  Oh, it’s over the top especially the last three years we’ve been doing more and more as far as blessing Israel.  Going to Israel, seeing Israeli’s coming to the Lord, seeing healings and miracles, supporting ministries that help Israel.  And in three years we’ve had more favor and blessing and miracles and acceleration, open doors than we have in our entire life.  I’ve noticed that I have been increasing my help toward blessing Israel our ministry just in the few. One example of this I was in Israel one time and I was there ministering and people were getting touch and healed and saved and within 24 hours a TV network came up to me and said, “We’d like you to be on TV and do you have a show?”  And we had been praying God told us that we would have a TV ministry but it only happened as we really began to really really bless Israel and it became chasing us we weren’t trying to chase open doors, it began chasing us now we’re able to reach millions more people than when we were before in blessing Israel.

Sid:  Give me an idea, you recently got back from Denver where you had extended meetings in Hawaii, tell me some of the things that happened there.

David:  Okay we just got back from Denver a few days ago and we’ve seen all kind of miracles, tumors disappearing so a girl with cystic fibrosis.  We saw another girl with cerebral palsy she couldn’t move her arm or lift anything out of it and suddenly she could.  In Hawaii, we just had that last week, besides the Hawaiians getting saved, a miracle in and of itself that local Hawaiians coming to the Lord.  We had just crazy things begin to happen, so many things they’ve never even heard of gold teeth, fillings or crowns in that Island Maui that’s what they told me.  It’s not something that’s happened in Maui, and we had so many peoples’ teeth turning to gold it caused such a stir in the entire Island. People kept talking and talking, by the last night people were coming in by Ferry from Oahu, they’re flying in from California, coming in from different parts of the Island.  God will use the signs and the wonders as a bait to bring people in.  And once they came in they said “Actually the glory and presence of God is so awesome here this is better than signs and wonders.”  The signs a lot of times is just to bring the unbelievers in, or to get people stirred up or just an excuse to get them in the building where the glory is.

Sid:  David, we’ve been talking about Israel and about the Jewish people.  Where do the Arabs fit into what God is showing you?

David:  Oh, they have a big big part to play.  The Bible does say that the Gentiles are to make the Jewish people jealous back to their Messiah.  I don’t know of any other people group that would make the Jewish people more jealous if they also have the glory of God, and visiting them more than their enemies. Then the present day Muslims, Arabs getting saved and then having the glory hit them with signs and wonders and miracles.  And then them celebrating the feasts, imagine that and then God showing up that would probably get them really jealous that their enemies start having the glory of God.  And it would make some of them turn back to the Glory of God and they would make some of them turn back to their Messiah also.

Sid:  Are you having meetings with Arabs?

David:  Oh yes.

Sid:  And what type of results are you getting?

David:  Incredible results we are getting incredible results in Dubai and normally they didn’t expect more than a few hundred people and 1,000 people showed up the first night.  We just for Dubai was pretty amazing and signs, wonders, miracles began to show up healings.  But what happened a month before that some of these people from Dubai came to Israel, the pastor came with a lot of his church.  And I told him that if you will go and bless Israel God will bless your ministry in Dubai.  And he came over and they had the most incredible visitations of God probably of any other group on this trip.  When they got back to Dubai their ministry just suddenly began to open up, skyrocket signs and wonders, people began to come, and I came a month later and something began to happen.  The glory of God just began to hit and explode, and when they came they had to come through Jordan to get into Israel.  When the Israeli soldiers saw them coming in they were so amazed they said, “You are coming from Dubai, wow we’ve never seen people come in.”  They began to greet them and give them chocolate, warm greetings, “Welcome to Israel, we’re happy you took the risk and came.”  So something is happening. In Zachariah it’s talking about the Feast of Tabernacles being restored, the Messiah will restore the Feasts of Tabernacles every nation will have to come up the Feast in Jerusalem even Egypt.  It says.  “If Egypt does not come up I will not pour rain on that nation.”  So we are going to see and we’re starting to see Arab nations coming to the Lord also doing the Feasts of God. The Lord began to tell me wow, “In the millennium whoever doesn’t come up doesn’t get rain.”  I wonder if I celebrate the Feasts now will I get rain in my life and ministry in personal and spiritual.  And that’s why we begin going to see if God will pour rain on our life if we would come up to the Feast and just worship Him.  And so we are seeing that happen but especially the Muslims, they’ve turned to the Lord, they start celebrating these feasts I believe that it will cause such a holy jealousy on the Jewish people that maybe that are not so spiritual or not really seeking their Messiah.  And seeing Arab people get saved, healed, miracles, loving Israel and celebrating the Feasts with God showing up at the Feast.  I think that that would provoke them to jealousy.

Sid:  And you know one of the greatest One New Man examples that I can think of is a Jew and a Arab one in Messiah loving each other.  I mean talk about the whole world is trying to orchestrate peace in the Middle East; that’s the only peace that we’ll ever have.

David:  Oh yeah, that’s very, very, very powerful when Jewish and Gentile come together and there is a lot of things happening in Israel.

Sid:  You see, I think that is a portal also when Jewish believers in Jesus come together with Gentile believers in Jesus.  Now someone asked a question you keep talking about blessing Israel, what ways do you actually follow to bless Israel?

David:  Well, of course we know about humanitarian and standing up for Israel.  But I believe the number one greatest blessing you can do to bless Israel is what Paul said is “Leading them to their Jewish Messiah,” that’s the number one.  Give them food, that’s great, give them clothing, that’s great, but we should stand up for them and support them. If they die and they don’t know the Messiah, then still it’s not eternal.  So the number one would be leading them back to the Messiah that will be the greatest greatest blessing you could do for any Jewish person.

Sid:  You know God gave me a revelation on that recently; if you give humanitarian aid to Israel you would be blessed in the natural.  But if you lead a Jewish person to the Lord you’ll be blessed in the natural and in the eternal, I mean such a deal.  I’d much rather God say’s “He who wins souls is wise.”

David:  You get two for the price of one.

Sid:  You got it.  Now tell me a little about your brand new book “The Ancient Portals of Heaven,” what is it about?”

David:  Oh wow, it’s about a lot of things, but I taught about the ancient pathways that open up the glory in the ways that most believers don’t know we lost.  We talk about what Elijah knew, Moses, the Apostles, Enoch even all the way to Adam. What the ancient peoples know that opened up the heavens that we lost today.  They even talk about some really interesting things about the Chinese, the Koreans and the Polynesians that in the very very beginnings they all had the same account of Adam and Eve, the flood, Babel and they began to worship the God of just heaven and earth, at the very beginning before all the false religions came in, and they knew that there was a need for the blood sacrifice.  So real quick instance is that they went to Korea, the missionaries went to Korea and they said, “You need to know Jesus.”  And they said, “We don’t know who this foreign God is and they studied their Korean culture and realized the word for creator of heaven and earth was Hananim, the God of heaven and earth to them.  And they came back and said your God Hananim requires a blood sacrifice, that they knew, but He sent His Son with the blood sacrifice for all mankind and they were all ready doing sacrifices as it was similar to the Israelites and they received the Lord and to this day that’s one of the most powerful Christian nations in Asia is Korea.

Sid:  In your book you have even the most interesting things about Cherokee Indians in America.  The book is called “The Ancient Portals of heaven.”

Sid:  My guest is red hot for the Messiah; do you know Benny Hinn’s physician?  His name is Dr. Don Colbert?  Well, this is what he said about my guest, that “Franklin Walden is the greatest walking miracle I have ever seen.”  Now this is a doctor that’s sees miracles all the time he’s on the platform often with Benny Hinn, but tell me about the time on September 6, 2003 when you began to pass blood, they took you to the hospital and you literally left your body and when on a twenty-one day journey, explain that to me.

Franklin:  Well, I left my body I went out into a place where family was gathered together also those that went on and those that were still here.  I believe that’s the reason I know that God can make it possible that we see our loved ones here in a vision today, that’s going on.  But we went into a place to, I call it heaven because that’s what it was like to me, so beautiful.   Everybody there was so beautiful, peaceful, so peaceful you couldn’t imagine and it wasn’t, you couldn’t even think sin now, there was no way you could think anything bad there; it wasn’t even in our thoughts of it and then we come back, and I going to rush through this the best I can.  And came back to the church my wife and I she kept praying for me and I keep calling her and I’d hear her say, “Honey, where are you?”  And I’d say, “Where are you?”  And she stayed praying, holding on to a verse of scripture that “ye shall not die, but live and declare the works of the Lord.”  And then I went and the Lord showed Hell and I saw, they were just bringing them in by the bus loads and I watched that and this is what really is something as I saw all these that had rejected Christ, had homosexuals and lesbians and gamblers and drunks or…

Sid:  How did you know that that was their sins?

Franklin:  Because they were trying to satisfy that habit or that craving or that lust.

Sid:  So they still had that lust in hell but it wasn’t satisfied.

Franklin:  No, never to satisfied.

Sid:  Huh.

Franklin:  And that’s awful and I watched and then I saw these others come in that was dressed white in white clothing and I said, “Oh wow, what’s this now?”  And the Lord said, “Watch, I’m going to show you something.”  And when he did they changed and they showed hows these pretending to be Christians but wasn’t, they were hypocrites is what it was.  They professed but they didn’t possess.

Sid:  So there’s a special place in hell for the hypocrites.

Franklin:  I believe that. And then I saw the ministers that had been that had led the  people, I suppose like Jim Jones, or somebody like that, that had led them to believe this and they were gnashing him, I could hear them saying “You told us you were right to follow you, too late you can’t follow man.  And that’s what he was saying.  Then there was a gulf between me and hell there.

Sid:  There’s a good thing there was gulf.

Franklin:   And I was looking over and he looked and he said, “I’ll get him next.”  And I said, “Lord how do I get out of here?”  And I’m beneath the earth, how did I get out of here.  And he said, “Follow the voice, my sheep will know my voice, follow the voice,” and I followed the voice, I came out beneath the earth, came upon the earth and went back to the hospital bed.  Well my faith was already decaying, I mean rottening.

Sid:  You were dying.

Franklin:  Oh yeah, actually I was dead; I just had no respirator.

Sid:  Huh.

Franklin:  Heart’s pumping. 

Sid:  I see, life support.

Franklin:  And as I came out, I went in my body, this is kind of real touchy to me, but I looked and standing in the corner of the room with the Angel of the Lord. Didn’t say a word just looked at me and in my thoughts, “I’ve been watching after this while I sent you on the journey.”

Sid:  What did the Angel of the Lord look like?

Franklin:  Oh man, it was so beautiful, white garments down to his feet. And like a golden glow about him around his head and all. And they had to hold me on the bed after that, I wanted to get off, I want to get out.  My son walked in and I said, “Son you know how long I’ve been gone?”  “How long, dad, I said, twenty-one days.”  I said, “Son, do you know how many people visited me?”  I said “Forty-four.”

Sid:  You were gone and yet you knew what was going on in the hospital.

Franklin:  God let me know all about it, of course there’s a lot more to the story than this, they can read that book.

Sid:  I tell you what a faith builder. Well, tell me the story about the letter you received from that woman.

Franklin:  Oh, that was when I first went down and the first part of the leaving my body that twenty-one days.  I was crossing a bridge and a lady on the bridge there stopped and wanted prayer and I prayed for her and she was healed and I just went on.  I got a letter from this lady saying that I had a dream and you prayed for me while you was gone, I’m healed and I talked to the lady the other day by the way and she’s still healed.

Sid:  What was she healed of?

Franklin:  She had a chronic case of, I can call the name, but how it was infecting her lungs, I believe there it blood and also her joints.

Sid:  Let me see if I have this straight, here you’re in this in between zone, between earth and heaven and you see a woman there, you pray for her.  She has a dream that you pray for her and she get’s healed, is that what you said?

Franklin:  That’s exactly what I said.

Sid:  That’s what I thought you said, that is a, I mean talk about conformation of something, what’s God telling you right now?

Franklin:  A special anointing, hallelujah, special anointing is in this studio and I feel it, the power of God and everyone that hears my voice and hears Brother Sid’s voice as we speak the word, that anointing that Isaiah said will destroy the yoke.  You’ve been struggling, you’ve been sick, you’ve been afflicted, you’ve been…some of you was in the ministry and you’re out of the ministry because of this.  God right now is sending that anointing upon you in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, right now be free from all bondage, and there it comes, there it is.  Whew, Brother Sid it’s all over you, oh hallelujah, right now Lord such as I have I transfer right now to my brother the power of the Holy Ghost, the healing virtue of Christ right now flowing through my friend, God’s servant, and every gift of God that has been there is going to resurrect and that anointing, every sickness, every disease, when he speaks it will have to leave and out through his body let a quickening of my spirit that raised Jesus from the dead come upon him.  Amen.

Sid:  Amen. Well, I’ll tell you what God, I had such a desire for you to pray for me just now and you didn’t even know that but God knew that.

Sid:  I’ll tell you something, when you get a hold of these three DVD’s it’s a set by L.A. Marzulli you are going to realize that Jesus is going to return in our life time.  That everything is wrapping up and this isn’t just some fanatic screaming and shouting from the roof top this is someone that documents everything that he’s saying.  Now what I would like to know L.A. is why does it appear that Matthew 24 is coming to pass with the increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and signs in the sun, it looks like this was coming to pass today.    

L.A:  You know Sid; we’re seeing 7.0 earthquakes happen on about every ten days, somewhere on the planet, ten to fifteen days.  Is this business as usual or is it something more?  We’re seeing volcanic activity happen for Evjafjallajokull volcano in Iceland erupted in 2010 and then again in 2011.  It closed the air space over the northern part of Europe.  This of course was traumatic, airplanes don’t go and everything stops.  There’s another volcano in Iceland called the Grimsvotn Volcano; it’s a super volcano they’re called Deara.  The opening of that volcano is about forty miles wide.  If that thing blows, or another super volcano like Yellowstone blows, it could put the entire planet into what is known as a nuclear winter.  For maybe one or two years the crops wouldn’t grow.  How would that affect everyone on earth?  So here’s what we need to understand, we’re told by Yeshua Himself when we see these things, a lot of about what we’ve been talking about, begin to happen, look up for your redemption is about to happen.  We also know from passes in the Bible that there were escape routes there that God’s people were always protected, a perfect example of that is Lot.  Before destruction and judgment come Lot is taken out.  So we see that that is certainly a type we can at least cling to and put some hope in.  But I have to say, Sid.  We’re already in some of this stuff with the earthquakes and the volcanic activities; the Floods, the rumors of war that we’re seeing, the weird weather anomalies that continue day after day so we’re already kind of bumping into it in my opinion.
Sid:  Based on your study of Bible prophesy and all these phenomena’s going on in the world what would you say is next for the Middle East.

L.A:  Well, I would say one of two prophecies I think will happen, or actually one of three, or they may all happen very quickly in rapid succession, we may see a Psalm 83 type scenario which talks about a group of only Arab nations going against Israel as Israel expands its borders.  We may see an Ezekiel 38 scenario which I definitely lean to.  We may see say, the destruction of Damascus which is talked about in Isaiah 17 happen.  At any rate the situation is certainly pregnant, which is an understatement.  And something is going to blow over there, and I believe it is World War III and I believe it is the Ezekiel 38 scenario the one I’m leaning towards.  And that I believe is literally World War III.  It’s not going to last four or five years like World War II did, but this thing is going to be a game changer when it comes down.

Sid:  Let’s get real specific, what do you see with all of your studies is going to happen in the United States, in the world, in 2012?

L.A:  Well, I think we could be looking at a Middle East War, I think that America could be taken out through an EMP Weapon which we talked about earlier.  What amazes me is that more people know about the so called 2012 prophecies of the Mayan calendar then they do about Bible prophecy.  And I think that 2012 is a deliberate obfuscation, it steered the conversation away from real Biblical prophecy which is forming even as we speak, even as this broadcast is aired right now in the Middle East.  More people unfortunately know about 2012 than they do about Ezekiel 38, Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 and it’s screaming at us Sid, it’s screaming at us.

Sid:  What is Psalm 83 say to you?

L.A.  Psalm 83 is a group of nations which go up against Israel, very similar to the ’67 war in which the countries of Egypt and Jordan and Syria all those Arab countries went up against Israel and Israel expanded its borders.  We could be seeing sort of a replay of that which may in fact lead to the Ezekiel war, in other words, I’m not cemented in theological concrete here, I know what the prophecies say and I’m looking.  I watch, I’m a watchman, I look at this stuff daily and I monitor it you know constantly.  And I’m leaning towards the Ezekiel 38, 39 prophecy which is group of nations that form a collation a confederacy and go up against Israel.  Iran, Russia, Egypt, I mean some of these countries, Libya are specifically named in that prophecy and I believe that that’s forming right now.

Sid:  L.A. I know the effect that this information is having on me, and of our listeners right now, but what effect do your DVD’s called “Watchers,” the set of three have on people, everyday people that are looking at it.  Are they believing the documentation because to me, you’ve got such well know people on your DVD and your investigative reporting, what affect is it having?

L.A:  Well, what we’re seeing Sid, over and over again through emails and telephone calls and just people who I meet a conferences, we get the overwhelming response that people put these DVD’s in they gather their friends, they watch them and conversations begin.  People start talking about it, there’s lots of dialog that happens, in other words what it does is it gets people talking and sort of wakens them out of their slumber, out of their compliancy.

Sid:  Can you picture every Bible study in the America and other countries playing this and then having a discussion?  The Bible studies that say “Well no ones willing to speak!”  They’ll all speak when they see this information.

L.A:  And what we’ve seen too when these are played at church gatherings and they are, you know the entire congregations will sit down and watch some of this stuff.  It gets people talking and people start doing their own research and that’s what’s wonderful about it.

Sid:   What about non-believers?  What affect does it have on them?

L.A.  Well, the nonbeliever again, all of sudden they get jolted in a way that they haven’t been jolted before because we make a link between what’s going on the planet now and ancient Biblical text and you know we quote those text right on the DVD, it’s right there Matthew 24 “Of wars and rumors of wars.”  We make a very cogging case that it’s not business as usual.  So we sort of lead them gently to look at this, look at this, this is what the ancient prophesy is saying you know, maybe we should take a closer look maybe this deserves you scrutiny.

Sid:  Let’s, we have a few minutes left, you know if someone looks at this they’re going to come to the conclusion this late great planet earth is wrapping up.  They’re going to come to the conclusion Jesus is ready to return.  In the midst of all of the turmoil we read about in the book of Revelation and other books in the Bible, are people going to be able to live like Jonah lived in the whale, like Noah lived in the flood?  Or is it going to be a mass wipe out of everyone?

L.A:  Well, I don’t believe first of all there is going to be a mass wipe out, I believe that the Christians will at some point be taken out of here in what’s known as the rapture.  I don’t know when that is, and I don’t want to speculate on it, but I do believe that is my blessed hope.  I also believe that there will be like sanctuary cities.  There may be places where Christians gather together and are somehow divinely protected in a supernatural way.  And I realize that that might sound a little you know farfetched but it’s happened before in Biblical times; why not now?

Sid:  Now you talk about the rapture a lot and you’re dogmatic that there will be a rapture obviously because it’s in the scriptures.  But there’s something beyond that, you had a vision that really was life changing for you where you experienced the rapture.  Tell me about that.

L.A:  Well, I was getting ready to go in the shower, and so I wasn’t doing anything spiritual, I wasn’t fasting or mediating or reading the word or anything like that, I was getting ready to go in the shower.  And as Paul says “Whether in the body or out of the body I don’t know, but I was taken, I was there in the heavenly scene for about three seconds.  Second one when I arrived I’m spaced with other people, we’re not packed in like sardines, we’re about twenty to thirty feet apart we’re all looking in the same direction and that’s second one and that’s bam.  Okay, here I am, and I’m in the scene, the second two there is a holy reverential silence that permeates the scene, everyone know exactly what has happened, no one is asking where are we or what happened, there’s none of that, everyone knows exactly what has happened, we are in the heavenly scene, we literally have been raptured.  And that’s just two seconds, second three, remember that, one, two, three, bam back again.  Second three is the incredible realization who can make this stuff up.  Second three is the realization that my sin nature was no longer with me, which was just starling which was so liberating words cannot describe it and then I was back and I wept.

Sid:  What affect did this have on you?

L.A:  Oh, it had a huge effect, because I’ve you know it’s sort of a fore shadow of where we’re going.  It is our blessed hope.  Our hope is in that Yeshua will take us out before the wrath comes, before we see the craziness of the fallen one, his last evil scheme.

Sid:  I have to tell you when you were sharing that vision that you had, I just felt such peace and the thing that I’m pondering is what’s it like to live without any sin nature?  That has to be, even though that was a second, it must have been neat.

L.A:   Well, it was life changing, because to experience that for a second, I mean to come back and tell people that there was no sin nature, it’s not there, it’s gone.