SID: Now, most of you have probably heard of Kent Henry. He just informed me he’s done 60 worship albums and the thing you’ve done for 42 years, your passion is to usher believers into the presence of God. I have to believe that’s your passion too. You want to be in the presence of God. I’m going to take you back. You’ve been doing this for 42 years but at 19, you’re an athlete, you’re a rock musician, you must have thought the world was your oyster. I mean, everything was going right for you but you were depressed.

KENT: Right. After being a high level athlete and a lead singer in a band at 15 and half, depression came to my house. I thought I was king of the world but Jesus saved my life. Four years later some people mentioned Jesus to me, it was a family that I knew, I read a Four Spiritual Laws tract, gave my life to Jesus. I’ve never looked back. He took depression right off of me and I’ve been a happy camper ever since. It’s been very powerful.

SID: But you actually saw him at 19? What happened?

KENT: I’m glad you asked because my mom was a beautician for 42 years and I had been playing ice hockey, I had long hair. I was drying my hair late at night in her beauty shop with my, drying my long hair and I decided to look at the Four Spiritual Laws tract and I read it and threw it down. Something said pick it up again. I read it, God loves you, there’s a gap, receive Jesus. So I said, “Jesus, I don’t even know if you’re real but I’m asking you come into my life.” Sid, I tell you, out of the mirror in my mom’s beauty shop he appeared and stood in front of me and said, “You are my son, I love you.” I was changed. I could not believe this supernatural experience. That’s what he wants to do for anybody that will call on his name.

SID: Now, there’s a long time but I always ask this question. What did he look like?

KENT: Well, he had a white robe on. He had the gold sash, or belt and stuff and brown hair. But the thing is, he was speaking to me not with mouth but with his eyes. It was like so wild because I didn’t expect that to happen. It was like the warm grace of God embraced me. I felt like, he didn’t actually do this but I felt like I was taken into his arms and held as a son. It was beautiful.

SID: Now, when you got filled with the spirit and given a prayer language, I mean, a nice Baptist wasn’t enough, you had a Baptist and Catholic praying for you. Here you get the best of all worlds. Of course, you probably became a believer about the time I did.

KENT: Right.

SID: The only ones that were moving in the spirit were the Catholic charismatics at that time.

KENT: Yeah.

SID: They prayed for you and what was your experience?

KENT: Well, I was at a Newman House Center on the campus of the University of Missouri, St. Louis and I prayed during the mass, people that are from a Catholic background, for petitions. I prayed for anybody seeking the gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially speaking in tongues. Boy, it got really quiet. It was a folk mass but then a spirit filled Baptist guy named Steve and a spirit filled young lady, Maggie, came up to me after the mass and said, “Were you the one asking about the Holy Spirit?” I said, “Yes.” They said, “We can pray and you can be filled with the Holy Spirit.” I started taking my leather jacket off, I was on a motorcycle back in the day, and they said, “Well, we got to down in the basement.” I said, “Great. If the Holy Spirit’s in basement,” you know how these stories go. We went down there and I was listening to them praying with their prayer language and I was so amazed. I thought they were foreign exchange students or something because they were praying. And then, Steve bends down and goes, “Kent, stop listening to us and look at the Lord.” When I did, Holy Spirit filled me up. It was like a fresh oil, an oil came over me. I started praying in the Spirit.

SID: Did you realize when you said that, I felt the presence of God. I imagine something like you felt the presence of God.

KENT: It’s real.

SID: When you said that, it just, it like came down. Go ahead.

KENT: It’s real. Well, and then that warm oil. I started praying the Spirit and it was just so fluid I thought, “This is truly amazing.” There was a Baptist lady who was spirit-filled, I happen to call her. She says, “Kent, what tongues is is a prayer language.” I want to remind our viewers today, Sid, tongues is a prayer language that when you don’t know what to pray. I have used it every day since. I’m at the grocery story, Sid, I’m getting the peanut butter and the Oreos in the health food aisle, not really, but I pray in the Spirit and sometimes people overhear me and they just think I’m a foreigner. This is not my home, we’re going to be with the Lord one day, isn’t it cool? I really want to have people think about going back, power up in your prayer language again.

SID: Within a year after that experience, you became a worship leader and 5000, listen to this, 5000 young people were saved, filled with the spirit, and radical. You would have meeting once a week, something like 1550 to 2000, what would you say was the attraction of these young people? Young people in those numbers don’t go to something.

KENT: Here it comes. So ’74, ’75 and ’76, I’m only … by the way, I was Spirit-filled Easter night of 1974, in April. They asked me to lead worship two months later. So two and half years after that, that’s when all those kids got saved. We had 1500 every Saturday night from 7:00 to 10:30, think about the length of the meeting.

KENT: Here’s what it was, Sid. It was winds of the Spirit and waves of worship. It was irresistible because our Jesus is irresistible. The kids were coming out of sleeping with their girlfriend and sin and drugs and everything else. They came in and got saved and Spirit-filled. It just ran for almost over three years that we saw that happen. I believe it was the winds of the Holy Spirit effectively just transforming hearts and then it was the waves of worship.

KENT: We knew … somehow, Sid, the Lord said, “I’m going to show you about worship.” I remember I was leading worship, I’m a guitar player first, a piano second, I was leading worship and I turn around I said, “Let the band play.” They took off playing and stuff and I went, “Oh, my God. I hope that’s legal in church.” I thought, “are you?” And then, I found the words zamar, the seven Hebrew words for praise is to play unto his power. And there you have it, Sid. We just kept doing that Saturday night after Saturday night and—

SID: It was an atmospheric thing. Could they feel the difference?

KENT: That’s the super point about all of it. When you see his presence released, atmospheric change is automatic and it becomes transformational. You cannot stay the same and be in his presence on that level.

SID: When we come back, 1983. How would you like this to happen to you? 1983, he finds out his future. He’s going to be worshiping in the glory, miracles are going to break out, and it’s starting to happen now. We’ll be right back.

GUILLERMO:  Say it louder please?

AUDIENCE:  Activation!

GUILLERMO:  Activation means when something comes alive in you that was dormant. And the supernatural was within you when you [were] born again. The moment you were born again the supernatural was with you, in you, but religion taught you something else and moved you from the supernatural. So I will activate the power in you. Can I hear an “amen”?

AUDIENCE:  AMEN!

GUILLERMO:  Number 2, Number 2, the supernatural. Number 2. There’s the word called “impartation.” Say it with me, “impartation.”

AUDIENCE:  IMPARTATION!

GUILLERMO:  Impartation is, the word impartation,  Romans 1:11 says, Paul says: I will impart to you. The word impart means to share virtue. So what I will do now is I will activate what you have: gifts, revelation, gifts of the spirit, the supernatural. Number 2, I will impart what I have. So when somebody shares something [they’re] saying I give you something that you didn’t have. Oh my God, I am so excited! Oh — You must be willing to receive what I have. And that is share a virtue. And how would you know it? Well, whenever you go back and pray for people, now I’m going to put you to pray for the sick and you will say, “I didn’t have that before and now I feel power came out of me.” So impartation came, you were activated in the gifts of the spirit in the supernatural, you were activated in the supernatural but also you received a virtue that you didn’t have. Can I hear an “amen?”

AUDIENCE:  Amen!

GUILLERMO:  So I will do those two things. Can we pray together? Okay, lift your hands towards Jesus. Are you hungry for the supernatural?

AUDIENCE:  Yes!

GUILLERMO:  Okay, to move in the supernatural you must be hungry. You must be hungry. If you’re not hungry, God cannot impose something that you don’t want. You must be crying out in the spirit. Lift your hands and say [AS AUDIENCE REPEATS AFTER GUILLERMO AFTER EACH PHRASE]: Father; in the name of Jesus; I am born again; and the moment I was born again; I was born from above; from heaven; from the kingdom of God; so it’s normal; the supernatural for me; the supernatural is normal; right now, Lord; forgive me; say forgive me; I gave place to religion; and the supernatural; was removed from me; Right now; I ask You; to activate me; again; Lord; I receive; a fresh impartation; I receive; a fresh impartation; in Jesus name; right now; right now; right now! There you go, there you go, pray in the Holy Ghost, pray in the Holy Ghost, lift your hands, pray in the Holy Ghost! (Guillermo prays): Father, in the name of Jesus right now I activate the gifts, I activate the supernatural, I activate any gifts in every person in this building, I activate the supernatural, I activate the people to do miracles, signs and wonders, to move, to cast out demons, to prophesy, to intercede, any gifts that was dormant in them at the count of three, they being activated now. One, two, three, NOW!  There you go. Receive, receive, receive, receive, receive! Father, I impart, I share virtue. Oh, what I have, right now, what I have I activate them and now I impart to them. The anointing is in my mouth and right now I impart to them. When I count to three receive the impartation and respond to it. One two, three, NOW! There you go. Keep praying in the Holy Ghost (praying in tongues), lift your hands, keep, keep , keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost, keep praying in the Holy Ghost. There’s a fresh, there’s a fresh impartation, but I want you to cry out to God, I want you to cry out to God, “God I want it,” “God, I want it,” “I want it,” “I want it,” “I want it.” Frank, help me, please.

SID:  Okay, one last question.

QUESTIONER #9:  Okay. As we surely know the God of Israel trumps the enemy and we surely are in the Days of Noah, but even now we don’t know who’s genetically pure and who’s not, we know that, that in the final analysis in Malachi, it says that the spirit of Elijah would come, the Law of Moses would be exalted, and do you believe that God has, just like the Tetra, the four blood moons on the feast days and you know, Pesach and Sukkot and all these things, do you perceive that there’s a wondrous— there’s a wondrous mystery that’s going to be revealed in the, in the final days and possibly the spirit of Elijah whose going to proclaim the coming of the Lamb by dwelling in someone in these last days?

CRIS:  You know, I would expect so. Like you said, in the ending of Malachi it tells us to expect that. Now John the Baptist was a “type” of this final instance of Elijah, but I don’t think he was the final one. So I think we should expect something like that to occur, and relatively soon.

SID:  Last question, really last question! Okay.

QUESTIONER #10:  I’m going to move off theology for a minute. My understanding is the Vatican telescope is also, in Arizona, is somehow working with the University of Arizona. Certainly there’s these university professors or secular astronomers. Do they know about this and what do they think about this?

TOM:  Do they know about the prophecy of the popes?

QUESTIONER #10:  No. I mean do they know that the Vatican is perhaps watching something particular that’s coming that may have some supernatural impact? Is, is, do they understand a supernatural agenda going along?

CRIS:  Well, you know what’s really astounding, is that this whole observatory complex on top of Mount Graham in Arizona was started by the University of Arizona. It’s really the Miralab there that pioneered a new technology that got all this going. But one of the professors was the head of the Vatican Observatory Research Group. The acronym is VORG, which I kind of have fun with in the book a little bit. But uh, George Coinye was the leader of the VORG, was also an astronomy professor at the University of Arizona. Now literally a month before the VATT, the VATT [Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope] went on line he was giving interviews in the media. And there’s an article and I cited it in our book, in the London Telegraph, a conservative newspaper, that says “Vatican sets evangelical sights on the heavens.” And they interviewed him and he literally said that they were teaming up with NASA to find extraterrestrials and baptize them into the Catholic Church. I mean I’m not making this up. And this is what he said, and he said it like with a straight face, the article it wasn’t, didn’t come across tongue in cheek. And there was a lot of the Indians and the people in Arizona were upset about the whole thing. They didn’t want them up there anyway. And when this all came out there was a big controversy, this was like 1993. And, so one of the people in the Mount Graham coalition called the NASA and said, “Was this true, what this Jesuit is saying that he’s teaming up with NASA?” And they said, “No, we don’t have any contact with them.” So NASA denied it completely. But then since 1993 we’ve seen 4 or 5 of these Jesuit astronomers come out in the media, give interviews where they’ve talked about baptizing extraterrestrials. —go to Google when you get home and type—

SID:  Did you, did I hear what you said? Did you hear that? Baptizing aliens?

CRIS:  Just Google that when you get home, put “baptize extraterrestrial” and Google. Hit search and you’ll see just hundreds of articles will pop up and there’ll be interviews with various Jesuits talking about that.

TOM:  But they seem to use that doctrine to introduce people to the idea and now it has accelerated to a completely different spooky level. What they’re talking about now is WAY more frightening than the idea that we’re going to baptize an alien.

SID:  What are they talking about in a couple of sentences? Summarize.

TOM:  That it’s going to also include a new doctrine and actually it’s going to be the aliens baptizing us, and that to not believe their gospel will be heresy because it puts limits on God’s creative ability and we know we’re fallen, they may not be.

SID:  Did you like our guests?

SANDY:  And we see this actually today recurring in what is called “Fulfillment Theology,” which is a relatively new form of Replacement Theology.

SID: Explain what that is.

SANDY:  Fulfillment Theology takes Matthew, chapter 5, verse 17, where Jesus says that He’s come to fulfill the Law as its starting point, and proclaims that all of the prophetic promises to Israel, all of God’s future plans are, in fact, not future. They have all been totally fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ himself.

SID:  So you, but—in order to come up with that, you have to throw out so many prophecies in the Bible, you have to say the Bible isn’t literal. Do they say that?

SANDY:  Yes.

SID: Because you have to say that, otherwise what are you going to do with Romans [chapter] 9, 10 and 11?

SANDY:  Well I can tell you what I’ve read some of them do with it. Some—a leading scholar in one of the top highly regarded seminaries in the United States writes that the Apostle Paul in Romans 9 through 11 was merely venting his unresolved emotions, it is not inspired.

SID:  That’s sad.

SANDY:  Well, what, and again we’re talking, Sid, not just, you know, a stray fringe, but we’re talking academics teaching in evangelical seminaries, born again students, you know young people in their twenties, who are being taught that portions of the scriptures, particularly the Old Testament are not the inspired Word of God but are either Jewish myths and fables, or they’re to be interpreted as the personal expressions of the author and not the inspired Word of Father, Creator God himself.

SID:  You know I am bumping into so many variations of what you’re describing. I’m bumping into people that literally say the Book of Revelation was already finished and we, we shouldn’t be reading the Book of Revelation right now. What would you say?

SANDY:  Well, I would say we should. (laughs) I think that it, you know, it’s a great ending. Jesus, Yeshua comes back. But there are some people who adhere to a teaching that states that all of the prophecies pertaining to Israel or all of the prophecies in general, all of them, have already been fulfilled. They did literally come to pass some people will say, but they came to pass thousands of years ago. And so there’s no future hope for Israel’s restoration in the scriptures, they would say.

SID:  Except for one thing. John wrote this after they say it was all fulfilled in 70 A.D., which kind of puts a crunch to that, that theology. What about this? I know you personally have a heart for the Arabs, the Palestinians. I know this. What, but there are so many Christians that are developing this heart for the Palestinians they are coming up with a whole Palestinian theology. What is that?

SANDY:  Well, there’s a new theology that sometimes is called “Christian Palestinianism” which seeks specifically to counter “Christian Zionism.” And that’s, that’s not my opinion. I mean that’s, that’s made public on websites and in writings from scholarly treatises down to social media. Christian Palestinian is a way of—developing a new form of replacement theology that doesn’t have to be called replacement theology because replacement theology, as you may know, has become politically incorrect, even within the church. And so there’s a new theology now called Christian Palestinian. It’s really a form of Fulfillment Theology, and it’s specifically—

SID:  You know it sounds good, you know the title—but it’s not!

SANDY:  Well it’s not good because it’s extremely anti-Israel and it denies any covenant basis for Israel’s existence today as a Jewish nation under God. It completely disclaims that there’s any future or even present covenant purpose for Israel to exist. And it utilizes fulfillment theology. It utilizes some other errors that have come in and out of the church. But it’s gaining fast in popularity. It’s going around the world.

TONY:  You should stay here. It’s okay, baby. No, no, no, I, I’ve called you here for a reason. Oh! Look at me. Three, two, one. (Waiting) What you laughing for girlfriend? What? What just happened?

WOMAN #1:  It’s gone. I just feel light!

TONY:  Somebody give God a praise!

AUDIENCE:  Whoaaa! (CLAPPING)

WOMAN #1:  It’s gone. Hallelujah!

TONY:  It’s not my fault. Oh, mama. Get ready. Mama, tell me when all the pain is gone. It’s going right now, isn’t it? Um, huh. (waiting). All gone? Give the Lord a praise!

AUDIENCE:  Yay!  (CLAPPING)

TONY:  Feel the pain? Tell me when it’s gone.

WOMAN #2:  It’s gone.

TONY:  Somebody ought give God a praise!

AUDIENCE:  Whooo!  (CLAPPING)

TONY:  Did some people stand up over here? Did somebody stand up over here for knee problems? Oh,  I’m sorry, brother. You ready? Look at me. Don’t pray. Three, two, one. (waiting) Tell me when you feel it decreasing.

MAN #1:  It’s decreasing. It decreased 5 minutes ago.

TONY:  Tell me when it’s gone.

MAN #1:  It’s gone!

TONY:  Somebody give the Lord a praise!

AUDIENCE:  Whooo! Whoohooo. Amen.  (CLAPPING)

TONY:  Now God is healing. Listen to me. Who is having problems with your hip? Stand up right now. And there’s a number of you here, believe me. Of those of you that are standing, how many of you have pain right now raise your hand. Okay, I’m looking for hands. I see one hand right there. I see a hand right here. So I see two hands of people that are in pain right now. Right? Am I correct? Okay, very quickly. Real quickly. What’s wrong with your hip? Speak loud and I’ll say it in the microphone.

WOMAN #3:  Rheumatoid.

TONY:  Rheumatoid arthritis. How long have you had it?

WOMAN #3:  Ten years.

TONY:  You in pain right now?

WOMAN #3:  Yes.

TONY:  Say these words, say “Lord”…

WOMAN #3:  Lord.

TONY:  …”I forgive everybody”…

WOMAN #3:  I forgive everybody.

TONY:  …”Including myself”…

WOMAN #3:  Including myself.

TONY:  …”Right now.”

WOMAN #3:  Right now.

TONY:  In the name of Jesus I speak to the demonic power giving life to rheumatoid arthritis in this woman’s body. I call you OUT! And I command the pain and the reason for the pain in Jesus’ name go now. Do not pray. That’s hard for people. That’s why I give the instruction. I always have to repeat it. The more people praise and pray and worship the harder it is for them to obey this one instruction. But before God does a miracle He always gives you an instruction to follow. Tell me now, tell me when the pain disappears.

WOMAN #3:  It’s gone.

TONY:  What? It’s gone now? Step out in the aisle. March up and down. Good. Somebody give the Lord a praise. Are you good?

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPPING)

TONY:  Who else had pain? Girl, why you got pain? What kind of arthritis? Where do you have pain? One hip or two hips? Say Jesus, I forgive everybody. And I forgive myself.  And I accept you as my healer. Right now. Close your eyes. Tell me when you feel pain decreasing. Three, two, one. Now. (waiting) What?

WOMAN #4:  It’s decreasing a little bit.

TONY:  A little bit? That means God’s doing something, huh??

WOMAN #4:  Uh, huh.

TONY:  I speak to the spirit of… that’s giving life to this arthritis. OUT!  Now I speak a creative miracle into these bones. (waiting) Give me an honest answer. What’s happening now? It’s still decreasing? Would you do me a favor? Would you interrupt me when it’s all gone? You just keep, just interrupt me. Say Tonay…Try that. Tonay…

WOMAN #4:  Okay. Say what?

TONY:  Say “Tonay”…

WOMAN #4:  Tonay…

TONY:  Yeah, when it’s all gone, just do that! Give the Lord a hand clap!

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS)

SID: You say that God told you it’s time to possess the gates of our future. What does that mean?

CINDY: Well you know, God has a destiny and a plan for all of us and some people seem like one bad thing has happened after the other and they lose hope. They think they’ll never be restored. But we need to go back and say, okay, what is my legacy, what is it I should be doing? Don’t declare detente to the enemy, or just say, well I guess that’s never going to happen in my life.

SID: Or I’m too old.

CINDY: Or I’m too old, that’s a big one. There are things that have been delayed and delayed, and delayed, and we need to say, no, I’m taking it back. That is mine. It was meant for me. I mean, such is your inheritance. Mike and I decided we were going to look at our heritage and call back what should have been. For instance, Mike’s family owned about enough property in Tennessee, it would have been several counties, where the property—and somebody gambled it away. So we went back and cut that gambling spirit and we said, but the wealth from that should have been for our children, and our children’s children. You see, Satan robbed us. That’s a gate of the enemy. But even generationally, we don’t just have to say, oh too bad, and we have prospered so much since we started doing that. Well you know, there are things, Sid, that we have believed for a long, long time and we just didn’t have it. It just seemed like it wasn’t working. And but when we realized we had to seize the moment, we had to say, okay, we’re going to take these opportunities and the door is going to open, wow, I can’t even talk about it all the doors that are opening for us now. It’s so big. And of course, we meet with a lot of presidents, a lot of people around the world. But the gates are even bigger because we are seizing those moments. We’re believing in them. Listen, I’m going to refire until I go to be with Jesus. I don’t think retirement is really in the Bible. And so I think it’s a season that we’ve got to learn to walk from season to season, to season in our life. Maybe you always wanted to go on a mission trip. Maybe you wanted to do a lot of things, but you were a nine to fiver. Now you’re in God’s army. You’re in the army now and you can get mobilized. There’s something you can do, and I want to talk to somebody right now. So there is someone watching this show and you have just retired, and you’re a little bit at loose ends. The Lord says open your eyes, open your eyes. I have things that need to be done. I have gates that need to be open and you need to make a change in your mentality.

SID: Is this a special season?

CINDY: Yes.

SID: A special time?

CINDY: Yes.

SID: There is something going on. God is doing something.

CINDY: I tell you, I can feel it in the atmosphere right here, in this studio. I feel something, I mean, I feel it in the audience, I feel it here, I feel for you watching. Listen, the Anointing of God goes right over these cameras into your living room wherever you’re watching, on your phone. The Anointing of God is coming upon you for a season of suddenlies, a season of acceleration, things that you waited a long, long time for, they’re happening. Gates that have been shut, you’re going to command to open. That promotion, you’re going to command to open. So you just have to make a decision. This show is for you. You’re shaking off the past, shaking off disappointments and you’re going to the future.

SID: Cindy, you just spoke to someone right now, spoke to you, but there are others right now that are saying, she has something that I want. I’ll tell you what she has. She has experiential knowledge of God. I’ll tell you what she has. She hears God’s voice. I’ll tell you what she has. She is not fearful of anything. I’ll tell you what she has. She has the Living God living inside of her and I promise you you’re watching this show because God is not a respecter of persons. If you will say this prayer with me right now and mean it, you will have what she has. You will have what I have. You will have what my audience has. Repeat after me right now: Dear God.

Audience: Dear God

SID: I’m a sinner.

Audience: I’m a sinner.

SID: And I’m so sorry.

Audience: And I’m so sorry.

SID: I believe

Audience: I believe

SID: The blood of Jesus

Audience: The blood of Jesus

SID: Washes away those sins.

Audience: Washes away those sins.

SID: It’s a new beginning for me.

Audience: It’s a new beginning for me.

SID: I’m not looking back.

Audience: I’m not looking back.

SID: I am clean.

Audience: I am clean.

SID: And now that I am clean…

Audience: And now that I am clean…

SID: I ask Jesus to live inside of me.

Audience: I ask Jesus to live inside of me.

SID: And be my Lord.

Audience: And be my Lord.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: You know, I recently interviewed James Goll and he had to run to catch a plane, and this is what he said when he ran out. He said, “Sid, because you prayed that prayer,” the one I just prayed, “1000 people are now born from above and know Jesus.” I want to remind you that we’ve got more with Cindy and if you want to see the extended content of this program all you have to do is log on right now to SidRoth.org, S-I-D-R-O-T-H.O-R-G.

SID: Okay Dodie, there is something that I am overwhelmed with that I want our audience to be overwhelmed with. You have, your children so respect you and your husband, who is now in Heaven. Your children and you have such love. They have such honor for you.

DODIE: I know.

SID: The love that I see. You look around to be a servant. At your age, why do you do that? Come on now, Dodie.

DODIE: I don’t know why I do it. Jesus just puts it in my heart and Jesus would do it.

SID: Wen you pray for people you have the same compassion for them because of what you went through, I believe.

DODI: Probably so. I don’t even know if I’d be praying for people if I hadn’t gone through it myself.

SID: And there’s no important people in your life. There are just people.

DODIE: Just people.

SID: This woman doesn’t say it, but when I walked in to her presence I could feel the love of Jesus radiating out of her. Literally, Dodie, I don’t want to embarrass you, but I could feel that. I really could.

DODIE: I’m glad you did.

SID: And you don’t realize this, but I want to have, and I believe a lot of you do, I want to have the same compassion that you have.

DODIE: Sid, you do. I see it in you.

SID: Well thank you. But I’m not satisfied. I’m not going to be satisfied, Dodie, until I pray for someone that has an amputation just from the knee down and that foot is missing, that leg is missing. And I want to have the compassion of Jesus and pray for them, and that foot is going to go zoom, come right out.

DODIE: That’s what I want, too.

SID: Okay. I want you to pray for me and for every one of you that want that same compassion, that gift of love. I do not believe that Joel Osteen would be the person that he is today if it wasn’t for John and Dodie Osteen. You put that into them. Did you ever think Joel was going to be?

DODIE: No. He’s the last one in the world I would have thought would have pastored.

SID: Really?

DODIE: Yes. In fact I wanted him to go to college. Sid, I was so wrong. He went one year and dropped out and said he didn’t feel like going back another year. He wanted to start TV ministry. I said, “Son, I want you back.”

SID: Wait, he wanted to start a TV ministry for your husband, not for himself.

DODIE: Yes. That was 17 years before he became a pastor. And I was wrong and John was right. He said, “Son, you follow your heart.” Because it was just a little while later that his daddy died. And then he became a pastor. He told me God called him to be a pastor.

SID: Do you know his audience, I just found out, is 40 million a month. Would you have ever thought that, ever?

DODIE: Never. God has given him such favor and he is a real man. He’s real.

SID: I also found out something about him. I’ve never met him, but I found out something about your son. He hears from God.

DODIE: He does. He hears from God. He’s a very wise man.

SID: I want you to pray this for our audience.

DODIE: Okay. Father, I pray for the healing of people that are watching us today. Lord Jesus, you want your children well. You said you would give us the desires of our hearts. So do that for them, Father. Jesus, you said that you would restore health into us and heal us of our wounds. So I ask you to do that for your children, Father. I curse the diseases. I come against them just like Jesus spoke to the fig tree. I command them to wither and die, and leave, and never, ever, ever come back again. Father, you give the people the great wisdom to take care of their bodies and to do what you want them to do, Father. And Jesus, that compassion, we all need more compassion to be like you, Jesus. So give it to us, Father. Help us to all walk in love, Father, and not to criticize people, and not to see them as someone inferior, but to love them, Father, and to be kind to them and show the love that you have, Jesus, so that they in turn can be kind and be full of compassion. Jesus, help us not to judge people, but to see people as you do within eyes of love. And thank you, Father, for healing and making your children well, and restoring health, and healing us of all of our wounds. And bless Sid and help him to stay healthy and strong, and to keep doing good like he is for people all over the world.

SID: And you pray for Dodie right now if you’re home. And I’m going to tell you this, when you get to Heave

DODIE: Amen.

SID: But you know the first question Jesus is going to ask you, and I want you to ponder this, did you learn to love.

DODIE: Isn’t that sweet. Did you learn to love? That’s good. Oh my goodness. You make people feel so good.

Sid: My guest by way of telephone I’m speaking to him from his office at Millerstown, Pennsylvania is John McTernan. John was a Federal Agent for 26 years with the eternal security division of IRS. He also is cofounder of International Cops for Christ. And he has authored a book that you must read. The title “God’s Final Warning to America” which John has documented sins that have occurred like Gay Pride Day or a big pro-abortion type rallies or anti-Semitic or anti-Israel stances by the US. And the exact day judgment hits. Out of curiosity John have other people seen I mean this is too much it’s not 2 times it’s over and over and over again. Have other people been aware of this before they saw your book?

John: Sid I can say that people are really not aware of it. What they’ve told me is that as I have spoken throughout the nation is that we knew that we were under judgment we’ve seen these earthquakes and we knew that we were under judgment we just didn’t put it together like you have. So I’ve seem to be a catalyst for a lot of people in that it ties together what they knew was occurring but they just didn’t have.

Sid: How about people that have never even thought about this what affect does it have when they see the sin and the judgment occurring the same day in America?

John: Yeah I’ve had people tell me that there it’s done that they were like paralyzed when they realized that God was so real. You know it wasn’t like something way off in the future that it was happening right under their noses the authority of God’s word became so real to them that they were paralyzed when they saw it.

Sid: Okay I’m going to have a lot of people upset if I don’t pose the question we ended with on yesterday’s broadcast. And that is President Clinton was as we know humiliated internationally on a specific day when the affair of Lewinski became public on that specific day?

John: Well Sid on that day he had met with Prime Minister Netanyahu who then was the Prime Minister of Israel, Netanyahu, over again I use the expression carving up the covenant land. And he was using the power of the United States to pressure Netanyahu into this peace process. So he had just finished with Netanyahu and it was about it was either a half hour or an hour in between that he was going to meet with Yasser Arafat for the same purpose. During that down time of approximately half hour or an hour while Arafat was waiting to meet with him that’s when the President was told about the breaking of the Lewinski scandal. Exactly as he was going to meet with Arafat that scandal broke.

Sid: Do you have any…

John: Not an hour later or an hour before I mean exactly as Arafat was waiting for him that scandal broke.

Sid: Is there any doubt that that’s a direct correlation that that’s a judgment from God?

John: Well this is the way I look at it Sid he was humiliating Israel and then at the same time he was humiliated.

Sid: Now you list I mean even when people like Arafat come to the United States and try to solicit United States to be anti-Israel what happens to our stock market?

John: Sid while you were talking I had my book in front of me and I was counting the number of times Arafat has come here and we have had judgments fall on us it’s 9. Actually I have one that’s in addition to the book if we have a chance I’ll speak of it so I have 10 incidences when Arafat has come that disaster has hit us.

Sid: Alright give us specific examples.

John: Okay Sid we had March 2, 1997 and Arafat comes to meet with Former President Clinton in Washington. And on that same day and I’m going to try and…there’s been so many disasters it may be hard for you to remember but if you think back to 1997 there was a city in Arkansas which ironically is the President’s home state Arkadelphia it was literally taken…

Sid: That was President Clinton’s home state, go ahead.

John: Yeah former President Clinton it was literally taken off the map well up to that time it was considered the worst tornado storm in the United States history. Tornados when they cross Arkansas it cost billions of dollars worth of damage and they went into settled over…the storm settled over Ohio resulting in triennial rain that caused the worst flooding in 100 years in Ohio. That all started that very time the very day Arafat came to meet with President Clinton over the covenant land of Israel, just incredible storms hit. In fact the flooding ended up taking the city of Thelma, Kentucky right off the map. So with Arafat here we had 2 small cities in the United States literally taken off the map with the storms. And then Arafat went to the United Nations. Sid do you remember back in 1997 when the whole world was upset because Israel was building housing homes in east Jerusalem?

Sid: Of course.

John: It was called Har homa?

Sid: Yes I do.

John: Right well he went Arafat that’s why he met with President Clinton then. Can you imagine over there in Israel building homes the whole world was literally upset. He was met with President Clinton and then he went to the United Nations the very day he went to the United Nations the stock market had reached up until that point it had zenith. From that day on while he was here, because he stayed for about a week or 2 more and then President Clinton was condemning Netanyahu for not going along with the peace and building these homes. The stock market free falled for 100’s and 100’s and 100’s of points until Netanyahu came in August and met with President Clinton. And then President Clinton dropped the attack on Israel over, and you don’t hear about any more about Har Homa? The whole attack ended, Arafat went home the stock market went back up like the very day. So the very day Arafat came to the United States and spoke to the United Nations and was demanding and commanding Israel the United Nations was condemning Israel and that period of time Israel was condemned 4 times by the General Counsel and by the Security Council, but the stock market was literally going out of control and freefall. And then it all ended the stock market started an upward progression again. We’re not talking about a week before and a week afterward we’re talking about starting on the very day. So that’s really what I know was the correlation with Arafat that’s the first time I noticed the judgment falling over Israel. And then we go to January 21, 1998 and that’s when…that’s the question you just asked me before about Lewinski Arafat was here and the scandal broke out. September 27, 1998 Arafat is meeting with the President in Washington the hurricane I’m going to pronounce it right it’s Georges not George it’s Alabama and it stalls. I’ve documented the hurricane almost hit the very time Arafat landed in the United States he met with the former Secretary of State Albright. He stayed 3 days to meet with the president and the former president and the former Secretary of State. He then spoke at the United Nations and he left. For those exact 3 days the hurricane stalled at the Gulf of Mexico it sat half in the Gulf and half hitting Alabama and Mississippi and then when he left the hurricane dissipated and that was the end of it. So for the exact 3 days that he was here the Gulf Coast was being racked by Hurricane Georges I think did 2 billion I think it did several billion dollars worth of damage the exact time that Yasser Arafat was here.

Sid: In your book you document every time we go against Israel, every time we have a homosexual events, every time we have pro-murder of pro-abortion events there is judgment that hits on the precise day. And you call it warning judgments and is there a chance that God will change His mind.

John: Sid I can’t speak for God but I think we’ve crossed a threshold now where when you start marrying homosexuals and you call it civil rights because God’s plan even before the fall Sid there was a man and a woman and a family that was God’s plan from the beginning. When you start tampering with that and marrying homosexuals and attack people that stand against that we reach the realm Sid that is right that I call reprobate. When you can take a baby out of the mother accept for a little bit of the skull and crack the skull open and suck the brains out and kill the baby and that’s a constitutional right we’ve crossed a threshold Sid that I don’t know if we can come back from. When you disregard God’s word and his covenant with His people Israel and you say you we’re going to force you to give a third of Jerusalem away where the Temple Mount is and the land of Judea and Samara is we’ve crossed a threshold Sid and I think in these 3 areas we’ve crossed the threshold where our prayer now has to be to have mercy and judgment.

Sid: Well I interviewed Anita Johnson who’s received the same type of prophetic warnings from God and she is saying the same thing the only prayer at this point is to stall judgment for the sake of revival. However there are so few believers have the information that you’ve assembled in this book. But you’ve said to me that God supernaturally put this documentation into your hands. You know Mishpochah if it was the same week then we call these things coincidence but one sin after another that is publically documented the exact day that the sin occurs you can see a judgment hit America. On tomorrows broadcast I would like you talk just a bit about the abortion issue and the direct correlation of judgments that have occurred to the United States of America.

SID: You know James, you’ve had so many encounters in Heaven. But there’s three in particular in which God commissioned James for imparting the activation of your spiritual senses. Tell me about some of those visitations.

JAMES: Well in September of 2009, I had a visit in Heaven with the Lord and he said, “I want you to begin to impart some of these things to other people.” And he showed me how he wanted me to do that, and it was really a command from the Lord. I was not too eager to do that, but the Lord pressed on me that this is important in this season. People really need to get their senses activated. There are things that are getting ready to happen and they need to be alert and aware, and ready to deal with these things. And so the Lord said you must do this. And I, all that time in the military I knew how to stand at attention, say yes sir, I will do it. And I began to do that. And then I had another visit like that in 2011 before I got ready to go to a ministry trip overseas. And the Lord said, “I want to give you an anointing to release an impartation for renewing the mind.” And he was specifically talking about how can you help people break free from the things that bind them up and prevent them from using their spiritual senses. And he said the primary things that we needed to break free from were unforgiveness, bitterness and strife. And he specifically said that when you pray for people I’m literally going to just burn these things out and set them free so that they can begin to operate in the spiritual gifts and the spiritual senses at a higher level than they’ve ever operated before.

SID: You know James, I have found a spiritual truth that I want your opinion on this, that is blowing my mind, so to speak, and here is the spiritual truth. When I talk about true things that are negative and all you have to do is watch the news and you can talk about true things that are negative, the presence, the Glory of God lifts off of me.

JAMES: Yes.

SID: And when I lift up the Messiah, when I talk about good and pure, and lovely, and things of a good report, just like it says to do in Philippians, the Glory increases. Now my mother didn’t raise a dummy. I like the Glory increasing. This is what I’m experiencing.

JAMES: Yes.

SID: Do you understand what I’m saying?

JAMES: Oh absolutely. One of the things that the Lord did say to me, I was so serious about some of these in the beginning. And the Lord spoke to me one day, and he said, “You know, you need to lighten up.” I think we need to lighten up. And some of these things that we’re holding onto are causing us to be under the spirit of heaviness. And God wants us to lighten up and let our emotions get free from this bondage so that he can begin to impart the things that we need in this season. He can begin to speak to us so we can we hear, he can begin to manifest things so we can see and God wants us to be set free from these limitations.

SID: Well you know something, James, just as you said lighten up, I don’t know what this has to do anything, except God started operating words of knowledge I know with you and I know with me right now, and I know he’s doing it with you.

JAMES: Yes.

SID: But people with arthritis in your fingers, bend them and you’ll see all the pain is gone and people with problems in their spine, you are healed in Yeshua’s name.

JAMES: Amen.

SID: In Jesus’ name you are healed. What’s God showing you?

JAMES: Well God was showing me that glaucoma is being healed. So if someone who is burdened with that, right now just receive that from the Lord and let the Lord release you from that. Be healed of glaucoma. And the Lord is saying that there are people who have literally a stiff neck, and pain in the neck and the shoulders, and the Lord has released a healing and anointing right now to break people free, and in the name of Jesus, just receive that healing. Also I heard from the Lord that there are people that their legs and their knees are kind of weak and maybe trembling right now. And the Lord wants to strengthen you for your walk in the Kingdom, so he’s releasing healing. If you have that right now, a weakness in your legs or in your knees, just receive from the Lord your healing. In the name of Yeshua Ha’Mashiach, we release these healings to you now.

SID: And a deaf spirit, I bind in Yeshua’s name.

JAMES: Yes.

SID: Is gone.

JAMES: Amen.

SID: Now you were recently in Israel and the Mount of Transfiguration. That’s another thing that provokes me to jealousy. I would have loved to have been there. Well I’ve been there many times, but I mean when the Glory was on you. His clothes even turned whiter than the color white. But what happened to you just recently at the Mount of Transfiguration, what happened?

JAMES: Well at the Mount of Transfiguration, we were just led to a certain spot with a big rock, and we sat down there, and just Heaven opened, and things began, the Glory came down. People began to experience healing—spirit, soul and body, not just bodily healing, but also in the spirit and the soul. And then suddenly, a door opened in Heaven. And I was looking at this open door, and it felt as if the spirit just lifted me up, and I went through that door, and went into Heaven where I met the Lord. And there with the Lord, he came over to me and he put his hands on my head, and he said, “I’m releasing an impartation to you right now to set people free from the limitations that prevent them from operating in the spiritual senses, in the spiritual gifts. And I want you to go back and begin to release this to other people.”

SID: How about when we come back I’m going to put a demand on the gift that James has and he’s going to pray for you. We’ll be right back.

Sid: I’m talking this week about my trip to Israel and I’ll tell you something I feel like Joshua and Caleb spying out the land and I have a good report. The world has a bad report, they see war and rumors of war and they see intifada, but I have a good report. I saw an open heaven in Israel and I want to proclaim it to the world “This is the set time to favor Zion; this is the time to reach Jewish people with the gospel.” Why? Because I believe some very hard times are coming and I believe that by reaching Jewish people with the gospel that it’s going to raise up the One New Man, the Jew and Gentle, One New Man in Messiah Yeshua, Messiah Jesus, ready to do the works Jesus did and even greater.

Well when I got to the land of Israel my sister and brother-in-law who immigrated about a year and a half ago to Israel greeted me at the airport. I was so glad to see them, although I have to tell you though a little late and I was wondering oi vey because I just zipped through immigrations so fast, but they finally came and I was a little hungry. So we checked into a hotel in Jerusalem and we went looking for something to eat and boy we walked and walked. And you know there’s hills in Jerusalem and walked. And I was getting so tired and I said “Let’s just go back to the hotel and my sister said “Oh no, no so we found a shwarma shop.” Now you know what shwarma is that’s sort of like lamb on pita, you put hot sauce and it’s so delicious and then there’s another thing that my producer just salivates over, it’s called falafel. And they have so much great, I mean that’s all I ate just about when I was in Israel, falafel sandwiches and shwarma sandwiches. I mean we go in there and immediately I was tired but I wasn’t too tired to witness. I started witnessing to this waiter this young Israeli handsome young man and a beautiful waitress over there. She started eavesdropping, and all of a sudden a Hassidic Jew walks up because he heard just enough of the conversation to be interested. I’ll you that I almost fell off my chair when he said to me “I hear God in your voice.” I said “What do you mean?” He said “Well, I studied and I heard of this particular person, I studies with Shlomo Karlbauch and this is a wonderful Hassidic singer. I was a sound engineer and he didn’t say it but I knew that he was into Kabballah, that’s Jewish mysticism and he said “I really hear God in your voice.” And I said “Well, I have to tell you what I believe, I don’t believe in Rabbinic Judism. I believe that we Jews were created to have intimacy with God. And he looked at me and said “We’re not too far a part I agree with you.” And then I said “Well, there’s one more thing that I believe and that is that Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah.” And then he said “I feel sorry for you.” But we can be friends as long as you don’t tell people this. And I said “No, no I tell people this.” And then with that I’ll tell you he looked with venom in his eyes at me, I mean that hatred that was… I have to tell you it was the same hatred I read about in the New Testament when people looked at Paul and looked at Yeshua it was strong! And then he began to curse and made obscene gestures and left. With that the waiter said to me “You know that’s why I’m not interested in religion because of him.”

I have to tell you as I was talking to this young waiter I could feel love, it was a supernatural love and it was just pouring out of me, it was splashing out of me on him. I could feel this happening and I could feel him responding and I said to him “This is what I believe I’m not too thrilled over religion I’m proud of being Jewish but I’m not too thrilled about religion, I believe that better than 90% of what we call Judism is tradition and actually misrepresents God. It may be beautiful but it actually misrepresents God and it actually gets in the way of intimacy with God. God is love, and love is pouring out of my heart into him while I’m talking to him. Then I said and as a matter of fact I feel the same way about religious Christianity better than 90% of it is tradition and it’s beautiful tradition but it gets in the way of intimacy with God.

So here’s my spin “What if we pulled out all of the traditions from Judism and what if we pulled out all of the tradition from Christianity? Do you know what would be left with the scriptures and intimacy with God?” And he said “You know I like the way you talk.” I said I wrote a book I don’t have it with me but I’ll bring it to you.” Do you know that this young waiter told me 3 times please bring me that book, I need this intimacy with God. Three times he asked me to bring him this book and of course I did. I have to tell you this I had some second thoughts about bringing him the book because this orthodox Jewish had such hatred and I just had a feeling that he ate there every night it was a good shwarma shop. And I had some fear just rose up with me I was surprised but it did. If you had seen the hate in this man’s eyes, and then I came to my senses because the Bible says “God has not given you a spirit of fear but of power, love and a sound mind.” And I recognized that God is for me so who could be against me, God sent me to Israel this is ridiculous. I mean this spirit actually was trying to intimidate me from bringing the book back to this young waiter. When I came to my senses it left but I see that spirit of fear in the land of Israel and when even the believers are fearful of sharing. And if believers don’t share whose going to share, but I learned something as strong as I am in the Lord that spirit of fear tried to attach itself to me and it is a spirit. And in the name of Yeshua and the word of God and the blood of God it’s too much for that spirit to handle. And it vamoosed, it got lost.

Then this young waiter I asked him can I pray for you and I said “What can I pray for you?” And he said “I’m going into the military and I’m afraid.” And I prayed for him and he felt so good, and you know what was going on simultaneously with me witnessing to this waiter and waitress there was a New Age rally going on in the Sea of Galilee area you know how many young Israelis went to that? Twenty-five thousand young Israelis that’s legal, but it’s illegal to have a meeting about Yeshua for young unsaved Israelis, I mean it shows you how crazy the world is. Even the torah condemns the New Age in Deuteronomy chapter 18 but they had this. Why are they going after New Age in droves? The only viable option they have in the land of Israel is religious Orthodox Judaism and their turned off to that. And so therefore, their sitting ducks for the New Age. You know what I’m told when an Israeli graduates and gets out of the army, special planes chartered to take them to India. They go to India to invest the gurus, so if we don’t plant the gospel within them the devil is not shy. If believers in the land are intimidated the devils people aren’t shy. I go into shopping malls in the land of Israel and I see physics in the malls doing tarot cards, reading palms.