Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Gary Kah. I explained on yesterday’s broadcast that Gary has made it a life study of the One World Government One World Religion. It started many years ago in the1980’s when he was the Europe and Middle East Trade Specialist for the government of Indiana and visited over 20 countries. And he saw what almost shocked him this One World Order evolving in fact Gary in your book “On Route to Global Occupation” you had a scenario to what has just happened in America would you read that?
Gary: Yes I wrote regarding the future of the United States in building the New World Order where it helping to bring it about. And I quote now:
“Having gained some idea of America’s role in building the New World Order. The only remaining question I had was what will happen to the United States once it has fulfilled its mission? There is some disagreement among researchers on this question. Some believe that once we’ve entered the One New Order Europe will be made the headquarters of the world government others believe that the seat of power for the world government will be in the United States specifically in New York City. As we currently stand New York could be the logical choice to be the capital given the logical fact that it is the most powerful and influential city in the world and the United Nations the Counsel of Formulations and the Trilateral Commission are all headquartered there. However the secret hierarchy of Europe is still ultimately in charge might have different plans. If they intend to locate the world capitol in Europe they will find a way to do so such a decision would probably involve however either the economic devastation or physical destruction of New York City. This could be accomplished in several ways economically collapse of the stock market or severe depression or physically as an act of terrorism as a nuclear accident or physically through a limited nuclear war. Whatever method would be selected the European hierarchy would be capable of carrying it out if God allowed it.
And then I continue to quote from there but that’s the gist of it.
Sid: Now when you wrote that how long ago was that?
Gary: I wrote that in 1987.
Sid: Did you feel that you were being prophetic when you wrote that?
Gary: Well I wrote my book it’s over a period of 6 years and put so much prayer and research into it that I hung on every word that was written I wanted to make sure it was from the Lord and I wasn’t just writing what Gary Kah wanted to say. And my purpose wasn’t to make prophetic statements but just to lay out the possibilities that I saw then and based upon my research and what the Bible says. And so I wrote down what I believe the Lord gave me and the book went to print then in 199l. And as you can imagine since things happened in New York City our phone has been ringing off the hook regarding all of this.
Sid: Now you mentioned on yesterday’s broadcast that you see a whole lot more than just some radical Moslems involved in terrorism. You see a lot of other elements involved for instance in the report that I read you talk about Masons how are they involved?
Gary: Well in a big way actually Free Masonry is the most powerful secret society in the world today in sheer numbers and influence it has been for a long time. And historically it has a lot of roots in Islam and a friend of mine who was a Christian leader in Lebanon, an Arab Christian leader, told me years ago that President Assad of Syria was a top Mason. He thought that Saddam Hussein was although he could not verify it he’s pretty sure about it. More recently I learned that Mikhail Gorbachev became a Mason while in England that’s according to Dr. Stan Monty who has the evidence for that he just shared that with me a few weeks ago. Most of your top globalists pushing the One World Government agenda are rooted in High Free Masonry. Now as in Islam you’ve got many masons that are naively involved who have no clue about what their orders all about in higher levels and I want to say that because I even have friends who are Masons and I dialog with them and until I actually show them what they believe out of their own historical books they don’t know. And fortunately I’ve been able to get some of those books and quote from them and…
Sid: And speaking to quotes I have a quote by the name of Albert Pike from your report he was the head of the Scottish rite Freemasonry. And in August 1871 very interesting do you have that quote in front of you would you read that?
Gary: Yes according to Pike:
There would be a conflict between 2 future super powers which would be sparked by first igniting a crisis of Islam and Judism. And he goes on to state and I quote “He said we shall unleash the nihilist and the atheist and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which will in all of its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism the origin of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then every where the people forced to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries will exterminate those destroyers of civilization. And the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose theistic spirits will be from that moment on without direction and leadership anxious for an ideal but without knowledge where to send the adoration will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation that will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
Sid: How in the world did you get this document in your possession?
Gary: Well I’ll tell you this when I was working for the government shortly after I left my job I began coming on to Masonic books and it’s a long story but the door opened and then I began to read and research these and get more and more. And now I have my own library, I have copies of morals and dogma by Albert Pike which is the center piece book of Free Masonry.
Sid: Who is the god of Mason’s according to what is what you have read in writing?
Gary: Well page 48 of the “Lost Keys of Freemasonry” by Manly P. Hall.” And I quote their own books otherwise most Masons will say “No this not true.” Manly P. Hall talks about the seeding energies of Lucifer that comes upon a Mason when he gets to a certain level in an order. He does not reveal what level that is but he says to go above and beyond that level you have to prove your abilities to properly apply this power or energy.
Sid: Now do the lower level people even have any knowledge whatsoever of this?
Gary: I think most of them don’t as I mentioned however they do have access to some of these books. In fact “The Lost Keys of Freemasonry.” As well as “Worlds and Dogma” which talks about Lucifer on page 321. You can get those at any Scottish Rite reading room. I mean any Masonic library anywhere in the country would have those books. And I might throw in one other book that is most revealing and it’s called “The Secret Teaching of the Ages by Manly P. Hall. You can actually get that book now in some New Age book stores it has become popular so popular that apparently the masons have allowed that to flow into the mainstream of the New Age movement which 50 years ago you would had to belong to a secret society at a higher level to get any of this information but today you can now go into New Age book stores and get this kind of information.
Sid: Okay Gary let’s talk a little bit about Gorbachev and how dead is the Russian Bear?
Gary: Well unfortunately Russia is alive and well from a military standpoint in fact they’re very powerful. Yes the salaries to some of the military are low but unlike what you see in the media where they lead us to believe that Russia’s military is history. They have been building up while we have been scaling back.
Sid: Would you read the portion of the speech that you have in the report of Gorbachev to the Polit Bureau on 1987.
Gary: Yeah Gorbachev made this statement to the Polit Bureau in 1987 and I’ve got 3 or 5 others in my book “New World Religion” and this is just one of them. But he said: Gentlemen comrades do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnosts and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years. These are primarily for outward consumption there will be no significant internal change within the Soviet Union other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep.
Sid: Now tell me of the tie in between One World Order and Gorbachev and the Pope.
Gary: Well if you’re going to have a One World Government you need to have a coming together the world’s religions a type of religious unification or interfaith otherwise it’s not going to work. And it just so happens that Gorbachev and the Pope had a very close relationship for many years. And again in this 10 page report that I put together I’ve got a…it’s about a half page quote of Gorbachev talking about this special relationship that he had had with Pope John Paul the II. And they have been working very closely on building this New World Order if that’s what you want to call it. And I realized from my Catholic friends this might be hard for them to accept but I do have the documentation for it and it’s important that we’re aware of these developments and the developments going on in certain Protestant circles by leaders increasingly supporting the interfaith agenda. But let me just mention this very quickly on November 4th and 5 of last year unbeknownst to the public the Pope posted an unprecedented global planning session. The Vatican web page referred to this event as a meeting of “The World’s Parliament” their words not mine. There were prominent European officials there, thousands of national parliaments, Gorbachev. This meeting eclipsed even last year’s UN Millennium Summit of the most important political leaders. And this got no media coverage whatsoever none. So…
Sid: What was the purpose of this meeting?
Gary: The purpose of the meeting was to take the developments from the UN Millennium Summit that took place a year ago September at the UN one step further. This meeting at the Vatican brought together the political, the economic and the spiritual all in one place which the UN Millennium Summit was more political in nature. This meeting brought all of the pieces together again with Gorbachev being very close to the Pope on all of these developments. And also regarding the Mideast developments Pope John Paul the II for the last 18 months or so has met with Yasser Arafat, he’s met with numerous Arab leaders, he has been central stage really in Mideast diplomacy even Madeleine Albright during the Clinton Administration was traveling to the Vatican talking with Vatican officials regarding the developments. And early this year the Pope went so far as to visit an Islamic Mosque in Syria. So people need to be aware that the Church of Rome has a huge influence in the development…
Sid: So the Church of Rome goes, the Pope goes to Islamic Mosque. They celebrate in the White House under the Clinton Administration Ramadan. Clerics from the Muslim faith open our Senate and Congress, there really is a mixture.
Gary: There is and it’s quite amazing to see this but it appears as if superficial Christianity, elements of Islam, of Judism, of Hinduism, of Buddhism are all coming together.
Sid: We’re out of time.
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