Sid: A a few years ago I interviewed a young Messianic Jewish Rabbi by the name of Jonathan Cahn before his book even came out. We just offered it on CD’s “The Mystery of the Harbinger.” Jonathan who would have known what history would reveal since that point and what has happened. And the Harbinger means a warning, and there were 9 harbingers or warnings from scripture. What has happened since that book came out I know you’re sold almost 2 million of these copies of the book?
Jonathan: Yeah, well Sid it began with you; it began with that the first time and it went forth through America. I had a sense that it would because only since it was not of me and it is…
Sid: Now a lot of people say that it’s not of me. I happen to know that you’re a world class teacher, I know this, but when you’re saying “It’s not of you” clarify what you mean.
Jonathan: Well the Harbinger you know it came to me I didn’t come up with it I wasn’t looking for something it literally was revealed step by step. You know before there’s judgment God sends warning. Therefore, people who are vessels don’t take credit for any of it you know so it really just came forth literally. I mean literally, the book literally wrote itself and since it came out things in the Harbinger have been coming true. The harbingers have been continuing…
Sid: It’s been a prophetic book, I mean the whole harbinger series is from the Bible and your point is it’s going to come to pass. And not only is it coming to pass but there are more harbingers from the Bible coming to pass in America, more warnings.
Jonathan: It’s continuing, continuing to manifest, I mean these warning signs to the point where I didn’t believe it when I heard stuff and I wrote the book, that’s what I mean it’s the Lord’s thing. He is merciful that’s why He warns, America is rapidly heading away from God. And so the God of the Bible sends warning, that’s what the harbinger is they’re manifest, they have manifested they have continuing and this is openly God’s mercy before judgment.
Sid: And after 3 years of this being a best seller you have a new book. Just out of curiosity you mentioned the Shemitah in the Harbinger… first of all what does the word Shemitah mean?
Jonathan: Shemitah, well it’s so rich with meanings. The Shemitah refers to the Sabbath year in Israel. And that is that every 7 years there would be a rest and there would be no working of the land, no plowing, no sowing all that and no selling of the fruit. It was just a total rest, economically, everywhere. And then in the last day of the Shemitah it’s called Elul 29 on the Hebrew calendar. The last day something unique happens, all of the nation’s financial accounts is wiped clean, all credits wiped away, all debts wiped away all that. Now this was to be a blessing for… when Israel turned away from God the Shemitah, or the Sabbath year, turns around and instead of being a blessing it becomes a sign of judgment on the nation that has driven God out of its life. That’s it’s pursuing gain ahead of God and that strikes the financial realm, the economic realm, that really collapses things. So Shemitah can mean a release, but it can also mean a collapse or a fall. And so this is amazing thing that you know that first of all with the harbingers it basically is that these warnings are manifesting in America. And these are 9 signs that are happening in the last days of Israel that before its destruction are now manifesting in America. Well the Shemitah is part of that, and the amazing thing Sid you know is that even when I wrote the book I didn’t realize what we’re going to talk about now it’s so big that this mystery lies behind the rise and fall of Wall Street, economic recession, depression, the collapse of the economy, but also the rise of nations, the fall of empires. In fact, something I didn’t realize when I wrote it it’s been affecting our lives, and it’s before 9/11, it’s been affecting our lives from before we were born. It’s affecting us now, this mystery of the Shemitah, and it’s going to affect us in the future. Really much of this Sid came in the last really few months.
Sid: Now how do you feel about this book compared to the last one “The Harbinger?” How essential is this for people to understand the mystery of the Shemitah?
Jonathan: I believe it’s absolutely essential because it’s affecting, it is affecting our lives. It will affect our lives we are at a point where there’s another one coming. We don’t think that God has to do it in this exact way and this exact time but many things are pointing I believe that this mystery is going to affect this nation and everyone listening right now very dramatically. And when we begin as we open this up we’re going to see that it has really affected all of our lives up to this point. But I believe it is intensifying now because of where we are at as a nation.
Sid: Where does this mystery really begin?
Jonathan: Well in ancient Israel with this we have this Sabbath year that God gave now but the thing is in the time of Jeremiah the Prophet the mystery of the Shemitah turns from this nice Sabbath year to become judgment. What we have to remember is when judgment fell on the nation of Israel and Jerusalem is destroyed and the land was destroyed and the people were taken into exile from the land are in Babylon God says something it’s amazing thing. Because it’s going to be under judgment for 70 years, the land is not going to have people working on it it’s just going to be devastated. And 70 years and says why because of the Shemitahs. In other words because of all of the Sabbath years that they did not observe now the land is going to observe the Shemitah. So now the land is going to observe the Shemitah. So in other words the Shemitah becomes not just this nice Sabbath year it becomes the judgment on a nation. And so therefore you know it actually wipes away the nation. So this is what’s going to lead up to what’s happening in America. And one of the things of the Harbinger and the Shemitah in the beginning we found this amazing thing and that is that this ancient mystery is still in effect. And the key to the Shemitah is the 7 year cycle. Well you have this shaking of America happens on 9/11, and then you have this second shaking and the last 14 years it’s been 2 major shakings. And that is the collapse of the economy itself. The great recession, the collapse of Wall Street, now think about it. The 9/11 happened in 2001, the collapse of Wall Street happened the great recession happened in 2008, that’s a 7 year cycle. It happened, the collapse happened in September that’s 7 years to the month of 9/11. It happened the second week of September and that’s 7 years to the week of 9/11. When America would celebrate or commemorate 9/11 the second shaking is being set in motion in Wall Street and it reaches its peak, the absolute peak comes the greatest crash in America history happens in the end of September 2008. When did it happen? The greatest crash in American history it happens on the exact day appointed in the Bible, the day of the Shemitah, Elul 29, that is appointed to wipe away financial accounts, debt and credit in a nation that has driven God out of its life. I mean that itself is mind boggling but it gets even more mind boggling because the mystery of 7 year cycle. Go back 7 years from that crash and it brings you to 2001September that’s 9/11 but you have the other greatest crash in American history that happened September 17, 2001 that’s about 7 years but when you strip away the western calendar and you go back to the Hebrew calendar the other greatest crash in American History happened on the exact same Biblical day appointed in the Bible to wipe away the financial accounts. I mean this is mind boggling.
Sid: Okay, this begs the question to me, when does the next Shemitah, or the year of… what does Shemitah mean exactly?
Jonathan: It could be taken as the year of release, but it can also be the year of collapse.
Sid: Okay, so this begs the question, when does the next Shemitah, the year of release as you pointed out but it can also be the year of collapse. Then depending how you’re looking at it when does the next Shemitah come?
Jonathan: The next Shemitah is beginning in September 2014 and it happens on September 25th. Easy to remember that because it’s my birthday so I can remember that and remember it, then it concludes on September 13, 2015. And I know that we’re going to get into exactly what that means, but one note generally in the beginning it’s not dramatic we may not even notice something; but if it happens as it has before but if it happens the way that it has before it’s the peak and when it gets to the end; when it gets to that Elul 29 that’s as we’re going to see that’s when dramatic things, cataclysms happen.
Sid: Yeah, I know that you don’t know that it’s going to happen on this particular Shemitah, however when you say cataclysms could that really happen?
Jonathan: Yes, yeah, yes it could. And when I say cataclysm when we get into it is that not only can it you know it can be not only economic and financial it could be more that. Because one of the things that kind of blew me away was just in the last month or two of seeing this is that it can even cause the collapse of nations. So while we don’t put God in a box I would be aware of the times and I would be ready.
Sid: Refresh my memory again, the Shemitah in Hebrew means what?
Jonathan: The word Shemitah means it can be taken as it’s from the root word Shema; it can be taken as the release or the letting go. The resting, it refers to the Sabbath year that they released everything, they released the land they released their debts to each other, but it also becomes a sign of judgment and it can also mean the falling, the collapsing the shaking, the ceasing, so it’s so rich with prophetic meaning.
Sid: Now you say the Shemitah actually affecting our lives in a profound way today. I mean nations fall, nations rise, the economy falls, the economy rises, the stock market, wars all tie to this cycle. Give me a couple of examples of things that occurred on the Shemitah which is that one year of Sabbatical rest that we just everything is a rest in Israel. But it didn’t happen and when it didn’t happen they got it anyway in the form of judgment rather than blessing.
Jonathan: Exactly, they got it any way that’s exactly it. Yeah, so the Shemitah then becomes a sign of judgment on a nation that has driven God out of its life. That’s what happened it comes back and it’s not a rest as a good rest it comes back in a ceasing, in a shaking in a falling, in a collapsing. And one of the keys of it or the first key is that this link to the economic realm and the financial realm that’s where it begins. We have a year of rest or your production stops, your labor stops, everything stops. On the last day of the Shemitah remember that amazing day of Elul 29 all of the financial accounts of a nation are pretty much wiped away. In modern terms this becomes a recession, depression, or the collapse of Wall Street. Now let me give you some things, when I wrote the Harbinger, I had a sense but I had no idea how big this was. And just an idea of it and we already saw how the last two greatest collapses of Wall Street happened on the exact day of Elul 29 on the day appointed to wipe away our national account. But before all of this, even before 9/11, even before the Harbingers this thing has been affecting. If we look back, if you go back in the last 40 years of our lives let’s say starting around 1973 or so; you look at the greatest turning points the greatest economic, financial turning points, the long term crashes, the you know you look at that you’ll find that there are 5 great you know collapses this is not day collapse this is recession. Well if you look back at them I’ll just give you an idea, one of them crosses around the year 1973. The next one is around the year 1980, the next one is around the year 1987, the next one is the year 2000 and the last one is the year 2007 when the economy went dead, the stock market turns everything goes. Look at that, first of all when you look at the first 3, say we have 73, we have 80, we have 87. Notice that there’s a seven year cycle in between each of them. Go to 2000, 2007, 7 year cycle in between. Not only is there a 7 year cycle but each of those greatest collapse those that I mentioned were the years of the Shemitah the appointed time in the Bible everyone of them. If you look at the greatest financial turnings of the last 40 years every single one of them 100% stopping at the appointed time of the Shemitah. It goes more, Sid when you look at the greatest, the greatest collapses of… really in history and this is the you know the whole 20th century and with a long term of the turning of the stock market of the great depression all of that. Out of the top 11, 7 of them happened in the year of the Shemitah that same way. But it gets even more mind boggling because if you look at the original, actually if you look at the times of the stock market, like the greatest crashes that say the day crashes in stock market history you see something else that’s really amazing. And that is that they happen, they’re all clustering around this mystery. If you look at the 10, and I’m not an economist so you don’t have to be an economist to know this. If you look at the 10 greatest point crashes in history what you find is over half of them… oh actually 60% of them or the majority of them happened clustered not only in the month that the Bible appoints to which is the month of the Shemitah which is the month of Tishri. All of these stock market crashes they all cluster, if you notice, you may have noticed it. They generally cluster around October, September October.
Sid: Okay and Tishri is what month of the year Jonathan?
Jonathan: Tishri is September – October and remember we said “When does the next thing going to begin, the next Shemitah. It always begins, it always begins with Tishri and then when you have it at a year from that beginning when you have that great, you have that wiping out of accounts that also happens at the moment, at the sunset that Tishri begins. It actually happens at the Feast of Trumpets and so the amazing thing is when you look at the crashes of the economy, this is you know what we’re talking about right now have not been said but Nobel laureates don’t know this and we’re knowing this because of the Bible. And that is when you look at how many of these greatest crashes take place in Tishri or the Shemitah time it’s amazing I mean it’s like it equals up to let’s see 70% of them, 80% of them it all depends on the figure. If you look at the greatest percentage crashes in America history they also cluster the majority of them all cluster around Tishri, the autumn the time appointed in the Bible. You know and here’s another one and you don’t have to know much to know this the point is what we said is that there’s one day when everything is wiped out Elul 29. And if you look at the greatest, this is called the 5 greatest point crashes in stock market history. And you take how close did they appear, how close did they happen to this moment of impact in the Bible this wiping away, the percentage is 99%. They all cluster not only around Tishri but right by that day that God appointed to wipe out the finances of a nation under judgment. It’s amazing.
Sid: I have to ask you this question, you obviously understood the principal from the Bible of the Shemitah, you talk about it in the book of the Harbinger. As you got into this did you have any idea that it would predict the future, that it would be patterns that affect each of us? The number of judgments that have occurred in Shemitah years, did you have any idea that it would be this big?
Jonathan: Well it’s amazing Sid the answer is no with a little yes and that is that there’s one little verse in the Harbinger where the character Noriel asked the Prophet “Does this thing extend beyond like the just 9/11 where you have these 2 gigantic crashes, or does it go beyond.” And the Prophet answers “Well it’s not for this time.” Now to do this, well now is the time. Well I had a sense that there was something there that’s why I wrote that it’s a little thing most people missed it in the Harbinger but I had no idea until I was asked “Listen could you do something on the Shemitah?” And I said “Alright I’ll help you out with the publisher, I’ll help you write something. It turned and then I was blown away, no I had no idea and as I was doing it the mystery kept getting bigger and bigger I realized this thing has been affecting every one of our lives. You can look at your lives and you can see what’s happening during this time and it’s not only Wall Street, it’s not only our bank accounts it’s not only our pocket books it is literally, literally the rising of nations including America and the falling I mean everything.
Sid: Do you believe that if a believer understands these principals they will have a leg up if you will over the world?
Jonathan: Yes, yes absolutely. I believe, I believe that the Lord wants us prepared. It says He doesn’t do things before revealing this to His people. So I do believe He wants us to prepare, so the wise man prepares, sees calamity coming and prepares. Not that our hope is not in this world but we are to be prepared in this world. You know I’ll give you, let me just throw this in you know you’ve known Sid we’ve heard things like when the world wasn’t prepared with things like when the depression came. They called the greatest crashes, the 3 greatest percentage crashes are called black Monday, black Tuesday, and black Monday. Two of them were from the great depression, one was 1987. On the Hebrew calendar black the black Monday or the second greatest crash is Tishri 24. Black Tuesday Tishri 25 and then in 1987 black Monday greatest crash percentage is called Tishri 26. Every single one of them, if you knew the Bible you’d see that every single one is according to God’s plan.
Sid: Oh, you point out things happen on the precise day that this pattern is but I’ll tell you what we’re out of time…..
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