Sid: Now there is an epidemic in our land; and it’s got to do with the computer, with the information age, and with demonic spirits that want to cripple Christians before they even walk into their destiny. And they get addicted to sexual sins and in particular pornography. I have Dr. Doug Weiss on the telephone, and Doug the statistics are unbelievable. Tell me some of the statistics about people that are into the sexually immoral life that are Christians that are even pastors.
Doug: Absolutely I mean that we know that 50% of or more of the men in the church are sexually addicted; they are not struggling. There are people who struggle and there are people who are addicted; 50% of men will raise their hand and say I’m addicted. So Sid that tells you that it’s a huge problem. I’ve had a lot of pastors doing tenses, doing telephone counseling because they’re men and woman as well. I mean when you have a pornography thing where every second $3,000 is being spent on pornography; every second almost 30,000 people are viewing pornography; every second.
Sid: Well, you know I look at myself and I’m on the computer, I’ve done nothing to trigger things like this but out of blue I get invitations.
Doug: Hmm hm.
Sid: I mean… so if I had a problem which I don’t I mean it’s playing right into it.
Doug: Absolutely the enemy knows that if he can get you kind of hocked on this thing it will rob you of your destiny, rob you of your spiritual authority; it will take you down a road you don’t want to go. I mean all of us… I’ve been saved now for 30 years now Sid and I’m not a church hopper; my last church now I’ve been over a decade. But over my 30 years of being a Christian half of the pastors that I have sat under have fallen to sexual immorality; half!
Sid: Now what about the flip-side what about the woman; are they addicted to pornography, are they addicted to sexual addiction as much as men?
Doug: Not as much but it’s definitely growing; early in my career rarely would I have a woman come in who cheats on her husband or doing things on the internet. But now I mean in the last month I’ve had a few already; pastor’s wives and there’s stuff like that I mean it’s gone social meetings opened up for them and they start having these relationships and then they hook up. And the anonymity of the internet; so it’s become a dangerous place for woman to be as well. So yeah we’re seeing I trend of even Christian woman even in Bible School that are hooking themselves into pornography and social meeting that’s sexually inappropriate and leading them down a path that leads to destruction.
Sid: You know I have to tell you something for me I had such a strong encounter with evil before I became a believer in Jesus, and then such a strong encounter with the Lord; that to me as a believer I couldn’t touch that stuff. So I kind of wonder how a believer gets so addicted.
Doug: Yeah, now what you’re asking is a fundamentally intelligent question because all of us are new creatures in Christ. The blood has washed us thoroughly we met Him, we’ve touched Him; we have His Spirit within us and yet why do so many Christians struggle with this? As well as gluttony, anger, bitterness, rudeness, and 100 other maladies of the flesh? But this one is a little more powerful; some of us have been sexually abused that was my story; some of us have been abandoned; that’s my story. So we medicate our pain through sexual connections to a fantasy world. That’s one of the primary reasons Christians can stay addicted they haven’t dealt with their pain. The other is actually in the scripture lst Corinthians 6:18 says “When we sin sexually we sin against our own body.” Now for years Sid I would ask my theology professors in seminary in Bible School what that meant and they could not give me a satisfactory answer okay. It frustrated them; why is this sin different than all the other ones you know they’re all supposed to be equal. But when we actually have a sexual encounter God’s made our body’s in such a magnificent way that we actually have these endorphins and inkephalins these are brain chemicals it’s the prefrontal cortex of our brain and we literally glue when it attached to whatever is in our field of vision real or imaginary.
Sid: Now I’ve been saying something for a while I’ll be curious as to what you think because I have looked at that scripture and I’ve tried to understand the scripture. Now here’s my spin on it; the Bible says “You become one flesh with your partner.” What if that partner has got demons in them do you then have… then you are totally accessible to your demons and I might add all of your partner’s partner’s demons. And it gets pretty scary if you look at it that way.
Doug: It really does get scary and sexuality is very powerful it affects us spirit, soul and body it’s one of the few things that impacts all of you. That’s why God has so many cautions against protected us in that area. But you know and I know in America Sid we’ve forsaken God sexually; even the church. Most churches are raised by the world not raised by the church sexually; okay so we are having the same root because we have the same teacher. Now fortunately in the last decade some of the churches are coming along and their having purity conferences and they’re teaching good stuff and their really getting practical and that’s helping. Yes you’re right the spiritual demonic influences are real; what I’m saying is that the body glue the neuro attachment is really strong; also the psychological attachment where Paul said “Sanctify your spirit soul and body.” When you attach spirit soul and body you do open yourself up for everything.
Sid: Well, I’m looking at your background and it’s almost like the devil knew you were going to do something important and he sabotaged you in an area where you’re on the flip side today helping people get free. I mean you were born with sex by two sex addicts; your father abandoned you at birth.
Doug: I was birthed in adultery.
Sid: Oh I see; my mom was actually having an affair when she got pregnant with me.
Doug: Anybody out there is who is sexually addicted who is struggling I want to say to you; the enemy knows that you have value and you’re right Sid I was… God’s Spirit was selecting me for purpose and His purpose was to set the captives free. But yeah, there was the conception and then there was the sexual abuse and then there was the addiction to pornography and alcohol. And when I got saved alcohol and drugs left; sexual addictions still struggled along until I started using some of the principals in the clean book that we’re talking about. Because those principals have set me free for 25 years and I take a polygraph to verify my sexual integrity okay because it’s very important. And you’re right now God you know remember we’re overcoming sexual purity to teenagers and having couples talking about having great intimate relationships and having groups all over the country where men are getting set free. Yes, any man can be used of God; so if you’re struggling Sir; Mam if you’re married to a man’s that’s struggling you’re married to a man that God wants to use. And start moving in the clean direction so that he can reach his destiny. So Sir you can reach your destiny; there is no limit to what God will do with you if you’ll put your heart in your hand and His.
Sid: You used an interesting term; you said “People are medicated by pornography.” What did you mean by that?
Doug: Well, see when you go to pornography; you go to what we call an alter state you actually disconnect and you go to this fantasy world where you’re worshiped. Okay now, all guys like to be worshiped right. So that’s a natural weakness; and you go there and you worship there’s no resistance you’re told your handsome, you’re beautiful, your all these wonderful things. And you glue them sexually during that encounter to that fantasy voice and that fantasy vision. And so you medicate in that when you’re feeling stressed you go there; when you’re tired you go there; when you’re angry with your wife you go there. When you’re too immature to deal with what life is throwing you go there and it becomes a place of solace for you and that becomes medicine. See when Jesus was on the cross he didn’t take the medicine okay. But we can take medicine if we want to and one of the medicines we can pick up of many is pornography; is self-behavior is acting out with other people in social networks and other things.
Sid: Tell me about Joe who represents unfortunately too many people that may even be listening to us right now.
Doug: You know Joe was a guy who made a mistake. See he acted out with a few people and committed adultery; his wife forgave him and didn’t really get professional help just kind of moved through the process of just forgiveness we’re okay. And his particular thing that he was attached to was blonds so he started text going into stall looking at pornography, self-behavior. Starts being friendly with some blonds and before you know it he was having an affair in his work place in which he was one of the owners and having an affair with this 30 year old blond. And then she served him papers for sexual harassment and his wife was the co-owner of the business so his attorney told him he had to go tell his wife. And this was totally the worst day of her life; and you know Sid it goes back to this whole thing that we’re talking about a little bit. This guy thought he could do a little bit and if guys are even doing a little bit they need to get into the clean process because it’s so better to heal from a little bit than wait until you destroy everything in your life. And this guy had significant consequences because of his behavior.
Sid: Well, we’re living in such a permissive society; I don’t hear too many pastors giving messages on being clean from the pulpit.
Doug: Yeah, some churches aren’t even preaching the gospel Sid you know that and…
Sid: Wait a second they’re teaching positive thinking; that helps a little bit except when you die.
Doug: Jesus coming back; I haven’t heard Jesus coming back in maybe a decade in churches. Okay and I go to churches all the time and so He is coming back and so yeah the fear of the Lord has kind of lifted from a lot of people.
Sid: Yeah, that’s the key thing; I want to talk about that on tomorrow’s broadcast but we have a kit that Weiss has put together for us; anyone that does the work just as outlined in this kit. It’s two DVD’s a book, and a workbook journal, which is called “Clean.” Anyone that does this work can be set free; not just from pornography from any sexual addiction, and I’ll go a step further; not just from any sexual addiction but any type of addiction. Doug would you agree with that?
Doug: Absolutely the clean principles work and I want to talk to the men first. Men, whether you’re struggling or not this can help you tremendously to help disciple men. Men need to be sexually discipled in this age of sexual perverseness we live in; it’s time for the men to stand up for each other and be each other’s brothers so yes. Ladies you’re husbands need this, your sons need this they’re in the most perverse sexual warfare ever in world history ever; that’s not an overstatement; ever in world history. They need to be armed and equipped so they can protect the woman that they love, you and their future wives. So this is… the enemy has declared war Sid, Clean is us declaring war back and the guys who do the work get well. I’ve been free for over 25 years okay and I’ve been helping guys for over 20 years get well.
Sid: But you know what concerns me Doug; it can go on gener… your children will be affected; your grandchildren will be affected. ..
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