Our Guest Walid Shoebat

Sid:  Now I have a guest that is going to just blow your paradigm for end times out of the water and you know what?  I believe that it has to be.   Why?  Because we here in the west have got a scenario for end times. It says in the Bible that in the last days the love of most will grow cold because of what they see coming.  And here’s what I believe that means I believe that since we have this perfect airtight left behind scenario that if things don’t work out exactly the way the book goes then many are going to lose their faith in the last days because the whole scenario for end times is not understood from an Eastern perspective.  I believe God raised up Walid Shoebat so that he can clarify simply from the Bible the evens of the last days.  Walid many of the conclusions you come up with are opposite of what most Christians believe, why is that?

Walid:  Well, most Christians in the west tend to read the book of Revelation when they study end times.  My question has always been, “Why do we start at the end of the Book what about Genesis?  Genesis has tremendous amount of prophecy; what about the prophets themselves?  What about the literal references in the Bible?  Does the allegory supersede the literal references.  So people somehow compose that idea based on allegory then ignore much of the literal references in the Bible.  Now if I can summarize, there is two issues that I always ask every western theologian in this country which they cannot answer if they adhere to a western lens.  Question number one, out of all the references in the Bible in which God destroys nation and the nations are mentioned by name, can you find any reference anywhere in the Bible regarding a nation that God destroys that is not Islamic?  Question number two “Out of all the references where the Messiah fights and the nations that He fights are mentioned by name, can anyone reference to me a single reference in the Bible where the Messiah fights a nation that is not Muslim today?  In Isaiah 10 He fights Lebanon.  In Habakkuk 3 He fights Median, Arabia.

Sid:  If this is the case how in the world did we come with this scenario of the European conglomeration of nations in the last days?

Walid:  Well, the trouble began in the ‘70s when Greece joined as the 10^th nation in the European Confederacy.  The Hal Lindsey and people like Tim LaHaye began to say “Well, you know we have full composite.”  Yet they ignored the aged wine that talked about end-times from the older theologians; people like you know Sir Robert Anderson, Martin Luther.  In fact so many even the older days Paul Varse, Bollinger, Fox the book of Martyrs, Napierre you know John Cotton, Thomas Parker, Increase Mather, so many of the older theologians have always taught that Islam is the composite of the beast system of the end-times.  So it’s not the westerners didn’t get it it’s that only recently from the ‘70s the mistake happened when the European Union began to form. Now we have how many nations?  We have over twenty some nations in the European Union.  This defies the ten toes, the ten horns in the Bible, so it doesn’t fit.

Sid:  Well, there’s a lot of things that don’t fit when you look through Eastern eyes as unfortunately most of the modern theologians don’t.  And as far as I’m concerned I think it an amazing thing your ancestry, your grandfather was associated with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Unfortunately this man was an ally of Hitler and a lot of people don’t know the Muslim connection with Hitler.

Walid:  Absolutely, if fact it’s crucial that people begin to understand that Islam wanted to destroy the Jews as well, not just Nazism; eight divisions of the Nazi war machine two of them were Islamic fundamentalist, the Bosnian Division, the Albanian Division.

Sid:  You know I never knew that.

Walid:  Yeah, it’s a fact I can show you photos of Muslim Nazis praying towards Mecca under Hitler.  The idea of killing the Jews came from what, came from Hajaman Husseini who suggested that we use the same thing as the Armenian.  The Armenian genocide very much mimicked the genocide of the Hebrews killing Jews in carts, in train cart, how much can you fill in a cart, all of that came from the genocide of the Armenians by the Turks.

Sid:  Well, you know what I find so fascinating here on one side your grandfather is a friend of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hitler’s ally, and then you also told me that on both sides of your family there’s Jewish ancestry and you went a bit further; most of the Palestinians you tell me have Jewish ancestry. Why do you say that?

Walid:  Well, because I researched the archives of my family heritage, the Shoebat clan comes from Harris Ben Cobb, a Jew who converted to Islam.  Before him he knew Harris Ben Cobb comes from a Ashomel Ben Adaya, no Muslim has the name Shomoel in fact if you look at Wikipedia Shomoel Ben Adaya was a Jew who created to Islam in Yemen.

Sid:  So but you tell me even the best science and DNA is supporting the fact that all the Palestinians outside of those born in Egypt were originally Jews; that’s pretty crazy.  Maybe 90% of them were originally Jews.

Walid:  Absolutely, yes in fact in all Palestinian homes you will find the Star of David in front of every home.  The Star of David you will find Palestinians who still observe many things Jewish.  Eating the lamb standing up comes from Exodus.  When I read Exodus as a Muslim I was shocked.

Sid:  Let’s go back a bit further, you came to the United States you were educated, you got involved in radical Islam, but you married a Catholic wife and you wanted her to convert to Islam. Unfortunately you started studying the Bible and comparing it to the Koran and it turned out the opposite.  You began to believe in the Bible; when you began to believe in the Bible this must have been very tough for you seeing the difference between the Bible and the Koran.  Just the family, the emotional ties, how could you make such a change?

Walid:  Well, I had two choices either I recognized the truth and suffer during my life or keep with the lie and end up eternally suffering, there is only two choices; God gives us two choices.  When I read Genesis and God said regarding the devil He said, “I will put enmity between you and the woman.” Satan hates the woman because the woman brought forth the Messiah, her seed, it’s amazing.  In Islam the woman is mistreated, why in every ism in the world the woman is mistreated, why? Because Lucifer hates the woman, so right from the beginning I began to see that I was in the wrong path that I have to be nice to my wife, that I have to be nice and kind to my Christian mother.  By the time I reached the New Testament in 1^st John 2:22 what did it say?  It says “Who is the liar, it is but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ.”  He is anti-Christ that denies the Father and the Son.

Sid:  And the major tenet of Islam is they say, “God has no son.”

Walid:  Absolutely, in the Koran it’s very clear.

Sid:  But you know what, looking at your list there are so many things I never knew in going over your teaching.  For instance when most Christians think Allah is synonymous with the God of the Bible, but there’s something you were talking about this sign of Islam, the cresset moon.  Tell me about that.

Walid:  Well, the Bible tells us that Lucifer embodies the anti-Christ.  The Hebrew rendering for the word Lucifer in the Bible in Isaiah 14 is Hellel Ben Sakhar, we have to look at the Hebrew always.  This actually means literally crescent moon, star crescent.  Isaiah 14 is speaking of Lucifer who takes the body of a man, is this the man that made the earth tremble, this is the anti-Christ and he is described as the crescent moon.

Sid:  Okay, so what you’re saying is Biblically from the Hebrew crescent moon Lucifer are synonymous but then that begs the question, “Allah,” is Allah synonymous with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

Walid:  Absolutely not!  Allah has 99 names in the Koran and the names of Allah in the Koran, many of them basically mean the same thing of what God attributed to Lucifer.  Some of the names…

Sid:  In the Koran your saying?

Walid:  Absolutely.

Sid:    Give me one example.

Walid:  I’ll give you many examples Al Muqtadir is an Arabic word which means “The most proud one.”  When out of the Bible the most proud one is Lucifer.  Al Mumeet the one who causes death, Abdar, Arabic word, which means the afflicter the one that causes affliction.

Sid:  I’ll tell you what some of your teaching as mind blowing as what you’ve just heard Walid say; wait till you’ve hear his teaching on such things as the mark of the beast.  Totally different than what you’ve ever been taught.  Will the anti-Christ rule the whole world?  Totally different than what you’ve ever been taught.  Things such as the mystery Babylon, totally different than what you’ve ever been taught.  As a matter of fact you’re going to have the most sensible understanding of the end times that you’ve ever in your life.  It’s going to be so easy and that’s the way the Bible should be to understand the end times.  I’ve put together a package, a series of six DVD’s by Walid called “End Times Today.”  You will totally get it.