Sid Roth welcomes Eddie Rogers

Sid:  My guest Eddie Rogers is red hot for the Messiah I got pages of miracles that are going on.  You have a Friday night meeting. What type of miracles do you see on Friday night’s Eddie?

Eddie:  Third World miracles in a first world nation, literally just whatever people need.  We’ve seen deaf ears open on Friday nights; we’ve seen all types of back pain, diabetes, has been confirmed healed.  And of course that took a process of a few weeks for it to be noted and to be verified, but literally you name it and it happens.  Anything pain related it’s almost an instant miracle.

Sid:  In 1995 you saw the glory cloud come into a meeting, tell me about it.

Eddie:  I did, it was the most exciting thing I had ever seen up until that point.  During the course of the meeting and you and I were talking and it was a Signs and Wonders Camp meeting in July of 1995.  As the speaker who happened to be Rodney Howard Brown as he was ministering on the platform I saw, I opened my eyes and I looked from the left to the right a cloud that was billowing into the Kiel Auditorium in St Louis, it was so thick you could not see through it.  But it was billowing, it was rolling over and over, and as I was watching it I was exciting unknown to me that nobody else could see it because I was seeing it in the natural, I thought everyone else was seeing what I was seeing.  And I was beating the leg of the person next to me saying “Look, look you can see it.”  And they’re going “See what, stop it, you know, stop what you’re doing.”  And I watched this cloud as it rolled in and Sid when it would get near the people and people would get engulfed in the cloud they were jumping out of their seats and they were running around the auditorium.  The platform was a raised platform and I watched it as it got closer and closer to Rodney and it was just like a fog that it began to envelope him; and the moment he touched him he stopped preaching and he began screaming at the top of his lungs, and running around in a circle.  I’ve never forgot it, it was not only visible but it was tangible.  The glory, it would get on you, it will saturate into you, you can carry it for a period of time I believe, but under an open heaven we can keep this ongoing continuously.

Sid:    By the way, one of my producers asked a question.  “Today, what is your normal prayer life like?”

Eddie:  My normal prayer life is probably not the normal for everybody else, you know the Lord began speaking to me, I was hungry, I’m still hungry, just like you and I know just like many other people are hungry.  And as a matter of fact there’s a young man and your name is Steven, you are a youth pastor in a church and your marriage is on the rocks and you’re even thinking about divorce, you’re having a battle, you are having a struggle, with some things.  And the Lord wants to speak to you right now Steven and tell you He’ll open the heavens for you if you’ll humble yourself, if you’ll repent, if you’ll turn to Him right now again that He will radically turn your ministry around and it will be everything that you ever desired.  Thank you Lord, thank you Lord.  Back to the other, the question, when I really was hungry for the Lord and I began to study the lives of other men of God, their prayer lives and what things was happening in them.  And I have a friend in England and he’s a prophet, he’s from Zimbabwe, the man is just phenomenal and I began to question him. I said, “Well, tell me an example of your prayer life or as he responded back to me the Lord said to me, “If you will do what they do, you can have what they have.”  So I said, “Lord, I’ll do whatever you want, so what do you want?”  And the first thing that the Lord said was, “I want from 2:00 to 5:00 every day, I want it alone just with you.”  Now I was thinking that that was in the afternoon, but it happened to be he meant in the nights.  So since that time, every night, I would have to go to bed early but it always worth it.  I will get up anywhere from 12:00 to 1:00 in the morning and will stay up in prayer until 4:30-5:00 and that’s just one session but that’s a session…

Sid:  Now, when you pray do you spend a lot of time being still, do you pray in unknown tongues the whole time?  Do you just soak under music?  What do you do?

Eddie:  You know, that is a very good question, because I think that everybody wants to know that.  We have to be sensitive to the Holy Spirit because it’s not the same every night.  Some nights Sid, I’ll even ask Him where will I meet you tonight because some night He may tell me to go down stairs or in the living room or we have a building on our property or I’ll go out to the building.  Some nights I feel lead to pray in tongues for maybe two or three hours at one time.  Other times I’ll just get on my face and it will be a time of worship in the presence of God.  And that’s when those angels really come and minister to you.  They will minister with you, they will worship with you, when we get down on our face before the King and worship Him the angels in the room they will prostate themselves along with you and worship Him as well.

Sid:  And you know the way you pray reminds me of a dream you had of an old vehicle with a steeple as to what should really be done in the church, tell me about that dream.

Eddie:  In the dream I was sitting in the back seat of a car and my driver had an old felt hat on, his wife to the right at the passenger seat was humming some song.  We were leaving church and it was a man to my left and another one to my right and I was in the back seat and the countryside was just lovely, it was beautiful.  I knew that we had just left a church service, but it was something like yesteryear like something from the forties.  I mean I was really enjoying the ride until I turned and looked behind me and we were pulling a church steeple behind us and I thought, I thought of that movie with Steve Martin when they were driving off from the gas station pulling the church.  And I mean that was what it reminded me of and apart from that it was a very lovely dream.  But when I woke up this was what the Lord, began to share with me, He said, “This is what most people think that the church is nothing but out for a lovely drive on a Sunday afternoon, The people in the driver’s seat think that they are directing the church but it is my Holy Spirit who’s in charge and whose in the driver’s seat.”  And we’ve got to reverse the idea that we are taking the church where we want to take it, the Lord is taking the church where He wants to take it.

Sid:  Now, how does the Pastor participate in this as opposed to being an obstacle?

Eddie:  The Pastor, well in my opinion first of all he has to satisfy himself as to who he is going to serve, well he serve man or will he serve God?  Will he yield to the pressures of popularity or will he follow the presence of the Holy Spirit?  And I don’t say that lightly, nor do I say it sarcastically, I say it very lovely because it is a true searching out of the heart that every man of God will have to go through.  Will I be a seeker sensitive, will I tend to the needs of everybody or will I build a place that will be Spirit friendly?  And Spirit friendly is if you want miracles, signs, wonders, visitations for angels then we have to make the Holy Spirit the guest of honor and we have to please Him in all of our services regardless of whom it might offend.

Sid:  Easier said than done!

Eddie:  Yes, it is, it definitely is, it is not easy, it is not only with outward struggle but often an inward struggle as well.

Sid:  Well, let’s be candid, if you talk to most Christians about most church services they would say, a one word description “Boring.”

Eddie:  Absolutely.  Sid:  But how can it be boring if God was directing and He’s about ready to take over His Church. Very briefly, you know one of the things I find intriguing about you Eddie is just before you made the move when all the angels and the miracles started developing, you went through such a dry wilderness.  Someone you didn’t know was a witch actually got you on muscle relaxers that you needed to sleep.

Eddie:  Right.

Sid Roth:  It’s almost as there are people that are, you weren’t backslidden, but almost a backslidden state because the devil’s throwing everything he can at you because he knows the breakthrough that’s right around the corner and he wants to abort it.

Eddie:  Absolutely, and just briefly I mean it was because of that I literally did backslide and even reside the pastorate.  But it was there in that wilderness experience that I had that was the cry of my heart.  “Lord I don’t care if I ever preach again, but I can’t live without your Holy Spirit, I must have your presence.”  And I think that that’s got to be the paramount desire, not only of preachers, it has to be the paramount desire of every Christian, of every housewife, every man, every woman, every boy, every girl.  If we will desire the power and the presence of God above everything else that’s what hell fears most is people who carry the manifest presence of God everywhere that they go.