Sid Roth welcomes Chuck Missler

Sid: I don’t know about you Mishpochah, but this has been one of the most fascinating weeks of interviews I can remember ever having.  I have on the telephone Chuck Missler, were talking about his two powerful teaching CD’s “Return of The Nephilim” in which he puts together Bible teaching that the first church understood, but it’s almost been hidden from us for such a time as this.  And when you get this information, you can fit things together to understand end times better than you ever have before.  For instance, there was a high bred race of people that was developed, we read about in Genesis from the fallen angels cohabiting with woman; and it was God’s intent to wipe this high bred race out, but man did not follow what God wanted and therefore we’re suffering the consequences today.  My guest, Chuck Missler is an outstanding Bible teacher; He’s taught at Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa for many years his weekly Bible study in Southern California.  But his credentials are amazing; he’s a Naval Academy Graduate, a former Branch Chief of the Department of Guided Missiles, a CEO if six public companies.  So he had a high profile a corporate career and an amazing career in teaching on the Bible, but yesterday you let something slip out, but because about what’s going on in prophecy in current events today that are connected with this in the Golan Heights and Hebron, and the Gaza Strip.  But tell us a bit about what God’s intent was well with the flood to wipe out this race, but also Joshua.

Chuck: Well, one of the things as we study Genesis 6 of course God’s target was to undo the mischief that is described in Genesis 6 with the fallen angels cohabiting with women and generating these high breds.  And Noah and his family were not contaminated, they had a distinctive that they were not contaminated by that activity so God protects them and it literally wipes the rest out.  And they were very evil and all that too, don’t misunderstand me.  But the point is that if you look at verse 4 of Genesis carefully, it says that these things occurred then and also after that.  And from that little phrase, it clues us to be alert as we go through the Bible you get to Genesis 15 and 17 and God tells Abraham that his people will got to Egypt for four centuries and then come back to the land.  That gave Satan, four centuries to lay down the mine field and when they do come back and God instructs ultimately Joshua to, when they undertake the conquest of the land.  He points out that there are four tribes in Genesis 14 & 15 you will discover that the Rephaim, Emim, the Horim, and the Zuzim tribes; these four tribes that he is to wipe out every man, woman and child of those tribes.  Now when you see those instructions as a New Testament reader it’s shocking because you don’t have the background to understand what the issue there is that they have been contaminated by this same kind of mischief that was prevalent prior to the flood of Noah.  In fact you get the Anakin is 47 sons encountered at Canaan.  And Numbers 13 when the spies go into the land, they said that there were Nephilim in the land in those days.  Og the king of Bishan was the king of Giantess and so forth.  Goliath and his four bro when David goes across the brook he picks up five stones.  It only took one to get Goliath, the other four for his four brothers.  So the point is that there are these certain people that are the aftermath of this mischief by Satan to try to contaminate the human geno.  Now what’s interesting, if you do a careful study of the book of Judges, where they fail to really follow through the conquest under Joshua, the places if you study that book from a geographical point of view you realize they blew it up in the Bashan area, where today we call the Golan Heights in the mid part of the country of what we call Samaria and the West Bank area.

Sid: Judea Samaria.

Chuck: Judea in Samaria and also in the south Gaza, the Gaza area.  These are the areas that they failed to follow through in Judges and there the same areas that are under dispute today.  In fact the first place that Joshua attacked was the Capital of the Amorites, was a place, called Jericho, Bethera the house of the moon god.  And it’s interesting the PLOs Capital today is in Jericho.  And it’s astonishing to realize that the areas today that are under dispute, dispute by Israel’s enemies are the same ones where they failed to follow through back there from Genesis 14 through Numbers whatever so and the book of Judges.  So it’s interesting that for some strange reason these things seem to be very territorial.

Sid: Something else that I found out that was amazing was that one of the tribes that Joshua failed to exterminate was the Ropheim and that actually means the walking dead.

Chuck: Yeah, in effect. And Isaiah has a strange passage.

Sid: Twenty-six fourteen.

Chuck: The Ropheim cannot rise, they can’t be resurrected because they are you know, they are not eligible for some strange reason.  Presumably because they have high breed origins; but those are speculations on our part.  It’s clear though that it behooves us to do a careful study of these things and as you do that there is another distinction I’m startled to realize that most Bible scholars don’t make and that is there is a distinction between fallen angels and demons.  Now if angels have the ability to materialize, they can lead people by the hand, they can indulge in combat and so forth, they have the ability to materialize.  Demons that we encounter in the New Testament especially seem to have an inability to do damage except to the extent that they can indwell a host of some kind.  And even that, they have to do with permission apparently.  So you discover that there’s a distinctive qualitative difference between the word demon used in the demotative sense and we use the term connotatively to embrace the whole area, but fallen angels and demons apparently have their distinctive and so as you encounter some of these things I think there is always a benefit to the diligent student to be very precise.

Sid: Now, how would you speculate these fallen angels that cohabitated with women and developed this high bred entity, how are these high breds going to play out in end times?

Chuck: I don’t know, I see a couple of hints that they are going to be material here.  The one on soundest ground is Daniel 2:43 when Daniel talks about the future empires.  He has the gold, the silver, the bronze, the iron and the iron mixed with clay.  He goes through those succeeding empires which will be succeeded by the Kingdom and God Himself sets up on the earth.  But just prior to that we encounter this Iron mixed with clay and when Daniel goes to interpret that for us about verse 43 there he says “As for the miry clay,” see it’s in Aramaic not Hebrew, so the miry clay is made from dust, it’s very brittle but that’s where “the miry clay shall mingle themselves with seed of men.”  He shifts to a personal pronoun, “they” a plural “shall mingle themselves with a seed of men.”  Now grammatically that requires the seed of men to be something distinct from the to they, in other words for they to mingle they have to be different.  And so that is a hint that they that is going on there is something other than the seed of men.  And so it doesn’t take much imagination to suspect at least that this maybe an illusion to some again some satanic mischief in the human geno that is going to be very prevalent, maybe very material in the final days.  But there are guys that suspect that this may somehow be tied in with the anti Christ and all that, but those are pretty well speculations and so when you realize that you’ve got clearly demonic behavior going to be on the acceleration as we get to the final climax.  And you also see the rise of the worship of the moon god, worldwide under the guise of Islam about which there’s so much false propaganda it’s unbelievable.  But the point is clearly we’re heading into, in fact what startles me as a student of all of these things, is the rate at which these things are accelerating.  There are all kinds of things that are horizoning that are coming at us faster and faster that it’s really urgent for all of us if we take the Bible seriously to really do our home work and to try to go at these passages without the baggage of presumptions and try to go at it.  And see the other reason eschatology, study the end times is so difficult, it really requires embracing the whole counsel of God.  You can’t do it one to avoid one verse, theology; you need somehow to put this all into a fact…

Sid: But most of all, what we’ve been discussing all week has been hidden from the church.

Chuck: Well, because we take it in small pieces, see the New Testament reader is usually pretty ignorant of the Old Testament, and the Old Testament is the New Testament Revealed.  The New Testament is the Old Testament, concealed; it’s really One Book.  And the great discovery in my life and I think the great discovery in most of our lives is when we discover that the sixty-six books that we globally call the Bible even though it was written by forty guys over 2,000 years; it’s integrated design every detail on every page is there by deliberate craftsmanship.  And once you discover that it gives you an awe of the whole package that you can’t get any other way and secondly you come to a second discovery that the design of that integrated package had to come from outside the time domain.  You can demonstrate that the Bible had to be of extraterrestrial origin and simply because if for no other reason, it lays out history precisely in advance and once you discover those two things, you then approach these sixty-six books with a higher respect.  You take it very very seriously and …

Sid: And you know what I’m reminded of, I teach a lot on the one new man and it’s like God created the body of Messiah, the Jewish believer is incomplete without the Gentile believer in Messiah and the Body is incomplete without the Jewish believer in the Messiah.  And the Old Testament is incomplete without the New and the New is incomplete without the Old, we all need each other.

Chuck: Oh, exactly you know in Numbers 21 we have this weird thing where these people getting killed with snakes and Moses pray’s and God says put a brass serpent on a pole and put it on a hill and those that look at it may be healed and they are.  You can read the entire Old Testament and not have any resolution of why on earth God used that rather weird …

Sid: Oh, we’re out of time…