Sid Roth welcomes Peter Horrobin

Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I love the rarified air of Heaven. That’s what I mean by naturally supernatural, that God’s Kingdom would come on Earth as it is in Heaven. My guest, Peter Horrobin has keys as to why you’ve been robbed of your health, why you’ve been robbed of your joy, why you’ve been robbed even of your destiny. Now Peter, there are doors that need to be open. What are some of the doors that are robbing us?

Peter: Our lives are a bit like a house where there’s lots of rooms, and when something bad happens we actually close the door and lock it away, and we move on and do it again and again, and again. And some of those things behind those closed doors could be sexual abuse where we’ve been abused as children. It could be rejection. It could be traumas. It could be somebody who’s caused a terrible accident and we blame them, and we’re holding them in bondage. Many such things from the past, events which we are locked into, and because we haven’t understood that the basic lessons that Jesus included within what we call the Lord’s Prayer: “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who have trespassed against us.”

Sid: You know, I have to tell you something, and I haven’t told you this before. I have sat under a lot of teaching on forgiveness, but there is something so supernatural on your teaching. As a matter of fact, you call it, and I would, too, the most powerful prayer on Earth. I have been using, this is just one of many keys, but I have been using this key and I use it instantly when someone offends me, and it is, it’s supernatural. Explain the most powerful prayer on Earth.

Peter: Well when Jesus was put on the cross, he was being nailed there by Roman soldiers, and his words were, “Father, forgive them. They don’t understand what they’re doing. They don’t know what they’re doing.” And earlier in his teaching he had said, “Bless those who curse you.” Now why would you want to bless somebody who’s cursing you? Why would you want to forgive somebody who is nailing you? And the reality is that because of the fallen nature of our own hearts we want to get back at people, and when we choose to be in revenge in business and we attack them in our thinking, we’re actually locking ourselves in to what they have done to us. And when…

Sid: In effect, we’re drinking the poison that we want them to take.

Peter: Exactly. And this is like a Divine law. What we want for other people actually comes back and is the judgment upon us. But when Jesus said, “Bless those who curse you”, he was giving us a guideline for life. He was giving us a principle through which to live, which he put right there into the Lord’s Prayer. And you know, after he had given us the Lord’s Prayer, gave the disciples the prayer, they said, “Lord, teach us how to pray.” And that first bit was, “Your Kingdom come on Earth.” That’s the kingdom authority of God being lived out throughout our lives here and now. He then said, “Forgive us our sins as we forgive others.” But after he had given the disciples the Lord’s Prayer, you know, he was a brilliant teacher, he always came back and he just reinforced the key things. And he said to the disciples, “If you don’t forgive then my Father in Heaven will not forgive you.” Oh. That’s quite shocking.

Sid: Well you know, I have to believe if those words or literal that if I chose, and it really is a choice, if I choose not to forgive I’m not going to be forgiven. Now if I’m not forgiven, you don’t have to be a mental giant to figure out an unforgiven person does not go to a place called Heaven. That’s a horrible consequence.

Peter: But this is really what Jesus was saying, that if we don’t forgive others then we cannot receive forgiveness. See, we’re giving out a message to God, talk about the Golden Rule, “Do unto others as you would be done by.” So what do want to do to others? I don’t want to forgive them. Therefore, how do you want to be done by? I don’t want to be forgiven. It’s like a Divine law. You say, I’m not going to forgive somebody. Okay. You’re telling God I don’t want to be forgiven. But when we actually come to that place of saying, “God, with your help I choose to forgive those who have hurt me”, what we’re doing is simply this, we’re taking them off the hook of our lives and we’re putting them on God’s hook.

Sid: I like that. That’s worse than anything I could do to anyone.

Peter: Yeah. They’re still accountable to God, because sometimes people say, well they don’t deserve to be forgiven. You know, that’s absolutely true. You know, Sid, you do not deserve to be forgiven for your sin and nor do I.

Sid: I know.

Peter: It’s not a question of do you deserve to be forgiven. Forgiveness is an act of grace and an act of mercy. And we’ve come to God and say, “God, in your mercy, will you forgive me?” And He says, “Are you going to do to others in the same way that you’re asking me to do?” You know, he told that parable, didn’t he, of the servant who had been let off huge debt by the king. And what did he do? He went out and started to put somebody in prison for a small debt. And we’re a bit like that sometimes. We ask God to forgive us of everything that we’ve done wrong because in our hearts we’re still argh, angry, bitter resentful against people who have hurt us.

Sid: And what is that doing to us when we’re bitter, angry and resentful?

Peter: Well it does three things. One, it affects our relationship with God in Spirit. Two, it affects our emotions, the way we think and our mind the way we think, and our reactions, and then our body begins to pick up the message. And the message that our body picks up is that business and resentment, and anger are now going to be in control the way our body behaves. And even the medics will tell us that people who have got bitterness in the heart they’re much more vulnerable to things like arthritis, physical conditions, which are a direct consequence.

Sid: I’m amazed at how this is such a key to so many things. Don’t go away. You’re going to hear about amazing true life stories of people just like you.

Man: Lord, why aren’t my prayers being answered?

Woman 1: Please, Jesus, take away my broken heart.

Woman 2: Oh God, please tell me why I’ve not received my healing.