Sid: Now I had a dream a number of months ago but it was so profound that I still think about it. And Jesus told me three times “I’m coming back soon, I’m coming back soon, I’m coming back soon.” And then I looked up the word soon in the Merriam Webster Dictionary and I was amazed at what it said the definition of soon is “In a short time after something happens.” Now my guest is John Shorey what do you think about that definition of soon John Shorey?
John: Well, I think things are happening so therefore the Lord’s coming back is sooner than later.
Sid: Well, I want people to get to know you a little bit that at age 22 you became a believer and shortly thereafter you took after becoming a believer mind you you took a literal leap of faith tell me about that.
John: Well, as a young believer I was actually before I was saved I was working in remote area of Alaska in logging camps. And I became a Christian in the logging camps and I started ordering cassette tapes because I didn’t have a way to get to church it was 40 miles from town by boat and I was reading the Bible and I just felt my faith was growing. And I ended up having a light accident I jumped off a log in about 6 or 8 feet down into a hole and I didn’t see what was there and I twisted my ankle really bad and it was just not getting any better and it went on a couple of weeks. And I told my Christian friend that was instrumental in leading me to the Lord I said “I know that God heals so I’m going to believe that God’s going to heal my ankle.” And he kind of threw some water on my faith in saying “It’s not always God’s will to heal.” So I was really just kind of my faith was almost wounded how do I believe God to heal me if it’s not always His will how do know when it’s the will of God?” So I was struggling with that for a couple of weeks and my twisted ankle went on for 4 weeks, I was limping all over my job and finally I told my boss “Would you call an airplane and bring me to town so I could see a doctor because my ankle is just not getting better. So the next day on a Thursday I was going to fly into town on a Friday so on Thursday I told the woods boss that tomorrow I’m going to go to town and have a doctor look at this ankle. And when I told him that he said “The way you’ve twisted those it probably torn those ligaments you’re going to be stuck with a bad ankle for the rest of your life.” And when he said that I was really kind of stupid in a way to say this but I said “Well, you know God could heal my ankle.” And when I said that he just kind of laughed and he said “No, God can’t heal your ankle you’re stuck with it.” And when he said “God couldn’t heal it turned around and I said to myself, I actually said this to God I said “God he just said You can’t heal my ankle and because He said that You can’t I believe now that it Your will to heal my ankle.” And I had to go about 15 feet to over where the logs were at to help you know to do my job and I just said “Lord, I’m going to jump out about 6’ and I’m going to land on my bad ankle on that log and I literally…
Sid: Wait a second John do you realize what would happen if you weren’t healed, you might lose your foot!
John: I did I…
Sid: How could you do that?
John: You know like I say I was studying the word, I was reading about faith and I was just looking for a way to know that it had to be God’s will so I was convinced that it had to be God’s will, I was willing to take a leap of faith.
Sid: So you took a literal leap of faith, was any one there when you did it?
John: The boss that I had just walked away from.
Sid: The one that said that nothing could ever heal that ankle, no doctor?
John: This literally happened right in front of him.
Sid: So alright you take the leap of faith and then what?
John: And I put my bad foot out to catch my fall and God literally healed that foot before I touched the ground.
Sid: Did you know that God was doing something in that split second or did you only know when you touched the ground?
John: When I touched the ground I knew I was healed because the limping was gone.
Sid: So what’s your boss say?
John: He was dumbfounded!
Sid: I’m dumbfounded that you had such chutzpa, such nerve, such courage to do that but speaking of courage why did you read the book of Revelation in particular and just the Bible for a whole year, didn’t watch TV, didn’t read anything just the Bible. Why did you do that?
John: Well you know years after…actually a number of years after becoming a Christian I went off to Bible college and met my wife and we went into Children’s Ministry. We were Children’s Evangelists and we were Children’s Pastors and you know about 7 or 8 years ago I was a Part-time Children’s Pastor in this church at Peola, Washington and we had a visiting Evangelist and I was able to get in on the last few minutes of his preaching on a Sunday night. And he called people up for prayer and he called people up to help pray and I went up as one of the helpers. He didn’t even know that I was on part-time staff because we was off in another corner of the church working with the kids. And when he comes forward to pray the first he does he points me out of the back of the crowd and he says “I have a word from God for you.” And he says “God wants me to tell you that you’re going to see financial blessing.” And he said “You’re going to see best years, the greatest years of your ministry are ahead of you.” And then he said some other things about my personal life, and it’s like this guy is hearing from God and the next 3 years our family income doubled, the best income that we had seen in over 30 years of marriage. And after 2 years of that I went to the Lord in prayer and I said “Lord, I’m seeing financial blessing, I know this message was from You but I have seen our ministry winding down what am I supposed to do that will lead me to the greatest years of my ministry.” And after fasting and prayer I heard this inner voice saying “I was to do a study on the end times and write out this study self publish it and put it in the hands of Christians and Pastors and Christian Leaders.” And I went about to do it.
Sid: Now there’s so much I want to ask you but “How in the world did you get that revelation on the Book of Revelations which is the key to understanding the Book of Revelations?
John: Well, I ended up writing 2 books and I kind of all most laugh at the thought that I would ever write one book. And when I wrote my first book a friend of my son actually gave the book to her grandmother and she said “After reading this book the Holy Spirit told me this book of His Him and that I was going to write a second book.” And when my son came back and said “My friend told me that her Grandmother said the Holy Spirit told her that 3you’re going to write a second book.” And I was king of like Abraham and Sarah and I kind of laughed you know no way I’m going to write another book. Well, when I wrote the first book there was a part in my study that I was stumped and that was in reading Revelation it’s like I could see that sections of the book of Revelation were not in chronologic order. And if you read in Revelations chapter 14 you read about the 144,000 that had been sealed to do a special work for God. And in Revelation’s 14 Jesus is meeting with them on the Mount Zion and Jesus doesn’t come back in chapter 14 He comes back after the battle of Armageddon when He comes down on the Mount of Olives. So I was really stumped and I went to the Lord in prayer and I said “Lord You’re going to have to explain this to me what is going on that Jesus is meeting with the 144,000 before He comes to the earth to Mount of Olives? And I said “Lord, I’m going to read the book of Revelation over and over and over until You show me what’s going on.” And I had time on my hands and I started reading cover to cover the book of Revelation and in the 3rd read God just opened my eyes and let me see what was happening. And…
Sid: And just briefly tell me what this revelation was because I am frankly I have never heard this before, it makes as much sense as anything I’ve ever heard about in end times I mean this is a major revelation. But briefly tell us.
John: Yes, well in Revelations chapter 10 and angel shows up, it’s like you see John was translated to the throne of God and Jesus gave him the book of Revelation. And it’s like when John came back down to the Island of Patmos probably a cave that he was in prisoned in he started writing the book of Revelation. And when he got to chapter 10 this angel is right there you read it in chapter 10 this angel shows up and says “John read this little scroll, you must prophesy again about peoples, languages and nations.” And when I saw this I realized that John was interrupted he was in the middle of writing about the wrath of God and this angel gave him 4 additional chapters that was like an interruption. Almost like an angelic footnote to what Jesus had gave to John, well I put a little bit of a note about this in my book. But then after I wrote my first book on studying the book of Revelation all of a sudden I’m reading Revelation17:1 and there it is again an angel appears to John a second time gives him another interruption of 2 ½ chapters. And that’s when I realized that these 2 angels gave John an additional 6 and ½ chapters of Revelation and he didn’t put it in chronological order he put it in the book of Revelation at the point that he was at as he was writing the book of Revelation.
Sid: Well, let me ask you this question when you put the book of Revelation in chronological order and let me make something clear the book of Revelation says you can’t add or subtract one word there’s a warning actually there so but you haven’t done that you’ve just rearranged it in chronological order. Now when we rearranged it in chronological order and you read it that way what impact did it have one you what change in your thinking? Did it make more sense?
John: Oh, absolutely! In fact it’s like there are so many points of confusion when you read the book of Revelation from cover to cover…
Sid: And by the way every real Christian reads that from cover to cover because there’s a blessing there. It says “If you would read this book you will be blessed.” And to be candid with you when I read it because it doesn’t make logical sense I do it because I know that I’m going to blessed because God promises that but I want to understand it better.
John: Yes, well you see I took these 6 and ½ chapters and I divided it up by topic and you know what I mean where it just made sense this is a completely thought. And it was 10 complete thoughts that came out of those 6 ½ chapters. And I basically went through the book of Revelation looking for the same subject, key words topics and was literally able to see where each of these 10 portions from the 6 ½ chapters could be introduced as angelic footnotes to what Jesus gave to John. And when you read it from cover to cover you know what’s really interesting is in the first paragraph of the book of revelation it literally says that this Revelation of Jesus Christ was also delivered by angels. It’s right there in the first paragraph of the book of Revelation.
Sid: Here’s what we have done and I’m so excited about this we have put together a special Bible bookmark I want you to keep it right in your Bible and it gives the chronological order of the book of Revelation. I want you to read it for yourself, I want you to think for yourself. And then in addition to that we have the 2 books that God told John to write, the first one is called “The Window of the Lord’s Return” which is an in-depth study of the mid-trip viewpoint, the mid-tribulation viewpoint. It covers the timing of the rapture in relation to the tribulation. But John you were always a pre-triber what happened?
John: Well, you know when God called me to do this study and to write the book it’s like I had no agenda. I mean I came to the Lord in a denomination where pre-trib was the only viewpoint that was taught and you know it was really what I wanted to believe in but at the same time through my study…see I was a student of the book of Revelation I would read the Bible through every year and I would read the book of Revelation twice every year. And in just in my interest in the end-times I always made it a point to put extra time of study into the book of Revelation. And even though I believed that the rapture was pretrib there was a few key verses that didn’t add up.
Sid: I’ll tell you what when we come back we’ll pick up right there. As a matter of fact what I want to do when we come back if it is okay with you I want you to point out the seven things that have to happen before the rapture which caused you to change your viewpoint. But I want to make available his 2 books one is called “The Window of the Lord’s Return” in which he goes in detail as to why he believes in the mid-trib. rapture but even more than that why he believes the Lord’s return will before the year 2020 yes you heard me right. And he also talks about how America fits into end-time plans “The Coming Anti-Christ.” So we’re going to make that available, we’re going to make the special Bible bookmark available of which will allow you to understand the book of Revelation. His 2 books are “The Window of the Lord’s Return” and “Unlocking the Mystery the Book of Revelation.” And this special Bible bookmark with the chronological order of the book of Revelation. I’m going to tell you something if the Lord is returning before the year 2020 that means that there’s going to be a lot of stuff going on on planet earth and I don’t want you to be the tail I want you to be the head. I don’t want you to be caught unaware.