LARRY: Welcome back to Something More! I want to talk about the evidence of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2, chapter 2. We read about how when the Spirit of God is being poured out in the Last Days, which by the way we’re living in the Last Days! We’ve been living in the Last Days since the outpouring of the Spirit. One of the things that you and I need to position ourselves for is every benefit and blessing that comes with the outpouring. We’ve talked about tongues. We’ve talked about prophecy. There’s certain things we’re comfortable with but I feel like the Lord is bringing us into more! And that’s one of the things I wanted to talk about Jamie is I feel like God’s first language is not Hebrew, it’s not Greek, it’s not English. There are many different languages that God speaks!

JAMIE: Totally!

LARRY: So from your experience as one who operates in the “see-er” anointing, as one who perceives from the Lord and who’s had a variety of supernatural experiences, can you share, just talk about how many different ways that the Lord has spoken to you and maybe describe some of those.

JAMIE: Yeah. You know it’s super-interesting. I know with my physical body I have 5 senses. How many senses do I have with my spirit man? I don’t know. I haven’t really discovered every single sense with my spirit man. But I know with my soul I have my mind, my will and my emotion. God can speak to my mind. He can speak to my will. He can trigger my emotion to get into a place of obedience, to get into a place of faith. You know so with our physical man I feel, where it’s so often overlooked –

LARRY: Yeah.

JAMIE: – can God actually speak to me with my physical nature?

LARRY: Sure.

JAMIE: You know and there’s a thought the physical nature’s evil. So many people have run with that thing and almost put their physical body so far below its potential that we actually lose the ability to connect with God in a physical way!

LARRY: Well exactly! And that’s a modern form of Gnosticism.

JAMIE: Totally.

LARRY: To really denounce the body and even the soul, elevating the spirit. Yeah, that’s, I mean that’s dangerous.

JAMIE: Totally. So he says this thing in Hebrews 5:14. The writer of Hebrews he says strong meat, we all want strong meat, I don’t want to just live off the milk, I want strong meat. But how do I get that strong meat? He says strong meat belongs to those who by reason of their use have their senses exercised to discern between good and evil. Well by reason of practice! So are we practicing with our senses the discernment between good and evil?

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

JAMIE: And this is part of the “see-er” realm or the “see-er” way is actually using your senses or your members of your body to see what it is that God is doing, hear what it is that God is doing, smell what it is that God us doing, taste what it is that He is up to. You know so there’s different ways that we can identify what it is that He is doing. And if we have our senses honed in that we could practice this we could feel what it is that He is doing.

LARRY: Yeah. Yeah.

JAMIE: You know have you ever been in a moment,

LARRY: where you’re praising God, you’re worshipping and then all of a sudden you feel a gust of wind?

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

JAMIE: And you’re looking around is the fan on?

LARRY: Sure.

JAMIE: Is there an A/C that just kicked on? You know you’re trying to understand this. I’m not talking about you’re outside. But you’re inside. You’re indoors. You’re praying. You’re worshipping. Maybe a song comes on that you know really connects you to the Father and you’re feeling this moment and all of a sudden you feel this wind.

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

CLEDDIE: [leads the audience in chant] All in! All in! All in! All in! All in! All in! All in! [now singing] Moses on the banks of the mighty Red Sea. Behind him come the soldiers of Pharaoh’s army. He raised his staff the waters rolled back cause he was betting on God. Now Paul and Silas down in Philippi’s jail they didn’t moan and they didn’t wail. They praised Gods name in the midnight hour cause they were betting on God! And I’m pushing my chips to the middle of the table! Pushing my – You think that’s crazy?

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: A woman came the next night. She brought a bag of potato chips. I’m from Texas and she brought the biggest bag of potato chips! It looked like, it looked like a potato tow sack. It was that big! And she leaned it up against the pulpit. She thought I was talking about potato chips!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: What I was talking about is if you really want to see a move of God you’ve got to be all in! Everybody say all in!

AUDIENCE: All in!

CLEDDIE: I think probably there are some people that really will never see a move of God because they refuse to offer themselves in the day of His power! How many times has God moved in churches and among people throughout the earth? And I’ve traveled all over the world. How many times has He moved and God showed His power? There was somebody that was healed? Just one person gets healed that’s enough for me to believe that’s the day of His power! It said the people offered themselves willingly in the day of His power. How many of you have seen a miracle and you say well I’ve seen that before? That’s when you jump in! That’s when you roll up your sleeves! More people. My friend Randy says more people get healed if you get your hands out of your pockets. Turn around and tell somebody more people will get healed if you get your hands out of your pockets!

AUDIENCE: More people get healed if you get your hands out of your pockets!

CLEDDIE: Then there’s a lot of people who’ll never see revival because of compromise! How much compromise is there in your spirit? God hates, a compromiser! I tell people all the time what you compromise to keep, you lose! And were living in a day where the church is playing the game of compromise. How long has it been since you’ve been to a church where you heard the echo of your heart? Our boys go out to colleges and places. Go away from home. Move out to some other place and they can’t find a church. They call me and say I can’t find a church! I say go find a church where you hear the echo of your heart. They call me back. Can’t find a church. I say go find a church that’s producing preachers. They call me back can’t find a church that’s producing men and women of God. That’s where we are. That’s where we are. Does your church produce men and women of God? Men that love nothing but God. Hate nothing but the devil? I’m telling you when I came to Christ I made up my mind at that point I was going to have to be filled with the Holy Ghost. I told people I’ll have to be filled with the Holy Spirit or I won’t be able to live for God! I can’t play games! I’ve got to have everything God has for me! And so there’s a lot of people that don’t have a move of God! Say this with me, “Little baby”.

AUDIENCE: Little baby.

CLEDDIE: Little push!

AUDIENCE: Little push!

CLEDDIE: Big baby.

AUDIENCE: Big baby.

CLEDDIE: You figured it out?

AUDIENCE:  Uh-huh! Big push. [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: All were doing is producing little babies. But if you want a big baby it’s got to be a BIG push! Ask these ladies sitting by you!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: Little baby? Big baby?

AUDIENCE: Big push!

CLEDDIE: Little baby?

AUDIENCE: Little push.

CLEDDIE: Big baby?

AUDIENCE: Big push!

CLEDDIE: I think right now is America is at the point where we’re going to have to have a big push! And it’s going to have to be people like you that are hungry enough for God to come out and spend an afternoon watching these stories where people are talking about the supernatural! I don’t want to swim around in somebody else’s boot step prints for another day! I want to make some boot prints of my own! I don’t want you to swim around in somebody else’s boot prints! God can put healing in your hands. Raise your hand there. [slaps hands] He can put healing in your hands and all of a sudden your life takes on new meaning! I think that every one of you, are here, by design! Matter of fact I felt all day the witness of the Holy Spirit that He’s getting ready to fall in this place! I don’t even know if you’ll get home tonight!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER

CLEDDIE: I don’t even know if you’ll get home tomorrow! It depends on how hungry you are! Son, back in the corner back there. Stand up! Stand up! The fire of God is on you right now! The power of God is on you! The anointing of God is on you! He’s going to make you a voice and not an echo! You’re going to be used mightily! And I’m telling you when you get up in the morning you’re going to have marching orders and you’re going to know what the will of God is to do because He’s touching you today! I’m not telling you anything you do not know. He’s confirming in your spirit what He’s called you to do and be! That’s the way it works!

AUDIENCE: Jesus! Thank You! Amen!

AUDIENCE: [APPLAUSE]

BILL: [LAUGHING] Ah! Ah! Thank you! Thanks! It’s always wonderful to be with happy people!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

BILL: And hungry people! You know it’s so incredible to see what the Lord is doing right now in the earth. And so many people look at all the tragedies cause they’re everywhere and they read into those tragedies what God is like and they miss completely that He has hope in every situation. When He gave us the prayer to pray “on earth as it is in heaven” He was giving us the way to bring the solutions of His world into this one. And I think having hope, being a people of hope, hope is not wishing something good would happen. The word “hope” actually means “the joyful anticipation of good.” It’s the kids on Sunday morning that are, excuse me, Christmas morning that are back in their bedrooms waiting until they get to come into the living room where the tree is and the gifts are. It’s that anticipation in the back room. That is actually the word “hope.” It’s joyful anticipation of good. And so any area of our life for which we have no hope is under the influence of a lie. And so we have the responsibility to make sure that we manage our hearts well and that we approach this that God has given us to do. To always bring the influence of hope! One of the ladies in our church was in a time of prayer here a nber of years ago now and she came out of this prayer time and she told Kris Vallotton, my senior associate, this statement, and I think the entire staff now uses this as though it were our own, you know, and the statement is “the person with the most hope will always have the most influence!”

AUDIENCE: Mm 

BILL: Think about that. The person with the most hope will always have the most influence! Now we’ve seen that. We have interactions, we can’t talk specifics, but we have interactions with various political leaders, Hollywood, those you know people that are very well known and these people for the most part don’t have hope for what they’re facing. Their responsibilities in politics, governing cities, nations, whatever they really don’t have answers and they’re in a real, a real dilemma. And so it is the prime time for the people of God to stand up with hope, not this brainless or careless, but the hope that just says you know what? We know there’s an answer. And I may not know what the answer is but I do have access to it!

AUDIENCE: That’s right!

BILL: Because He has given me legal access to the mysteries of God and really we just turn our hearts toward the Lord and we seek Him for the answers, for the breakthroughs. I feel like what the Lord is doing right now is He’s raising up what I refer to as like a Solomon-type generation that will be a generation that lives with the wisdom of God that brings heaven’s solutions into earth’s problems and conflicts. And that’s where we are.

AUDIENCE: [CLAPPING]

BILL: We’re able to do that because of this burning conviction, a burning realization that God is perfectly good. That He’s perfectly good. There’s no blemish, there’s no shadow, there’s no, there’s no –  You know I hear people say “Well He’s good but He’s mysteriously good.” And what they mean by that is He does bad things to us but He’s going to make it work for good. That annoys me to pieces! That would be like you know breaking my child’s arm so that I can prove that I can comfort them and then reset it and show them I can take care of them! You know it’s ridiculous the kinds of things that get attributed to God and it’s unnecessary. But I believe that the Lord is raising up a generation of people right now that just settle those issues so that we don’t constantly trip over them. And yet we stand in the middle of adversity, sometimes loss or disappointment, sometimes the greatest breakthroughs we’ve ever seen in our life and regardless of the extreme we stand there with confidence in the goodness of God! And I’ll tell you what. Confidence in His goodness is contagious!

AUDIENCE: Yes.

BILL: It’s the disease that needs to spread through the earth, you know.

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

DONNA: but the Lord was showing me that it’s not in our flesh, it’s not in mimicking somebody doing what somebody else does; but we have to get in touch with the voice of the Holy Spirit.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And it was about 6 months later, I was in prayer and intercession all day long. I came into church, sat in the back row, and that spirit of intercession came over me.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And the Pastor of the church, I instinctively SNAPS looked up at him, and he looked at me and said, Go pray for this woman, and I didn’t even have to THINK, Larry.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: I just put my arm around her shoulder, and by the unction of the Holy Spirit.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: said, I take authority over you, you lying devil.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And she screamed, and hit the floor!

LARRY: Wow; wow.

DONNA: And she was set free immediately. I didn’t’ scream.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: I didn’t have a premeditated thought.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: it just came out of my spirit, and she was CLAPS INSTANTLY set free!

LARRY: Come on.

DONNA: And what the Lord was showing me is, you HAVE that abiding anointing.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: you’ve GOT that authority.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: but there’s a pump.

LARRY: Yes!

DONNA: that we can prime, and it’s that.

LARRY: Ooh!

DONNA: praying in the Holy Spirit, like Jude says.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: Building yourselves up on your most holy faith,

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: praying in the Holy Ghost. CHUCKLES

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And I think that’s what we have to learn; that’s a flow.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: It’s not something we manufacture; it’s a FLOW.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: out of our spiritual relationship with the Lord.

LARRY: Yeah. Well I want to move into a time of ministry right now, because what the Holy Spirit wants to do is make you aware of that river of living water that lives inside of you. Jesus said, Out of your belly will flow rivers of living water. That’s the Holy Spirit who’s already inside of you. You don’t need to wait for a feeling; you need to just recognize your authority in Jesus, and step-out in that authority. Donna, just based on what you have seen God do, just based on how you’ve seen God move, can you just release that over our over the people who are watching? Specifically, I feel like the Lord wants to increase our awareness.

DONNA: Yes.

LARRY: of that authority we’ve received.

DONNA: I’ve just been seeing.

LARRY: Yeah; yeah.

DONNA: as I’ve been sitting here, there are so many people that have been. MUSIC

DONNA: operating on that level of the flesh.

LARRY: Mm.

DONNA: and there’s been like a cloud of oppression over your mind and spirit. The enemy has been lying to you, saying that you’re out for the count.

LARRY: Mm.

DONNA: and that there’s no hope. And so we’re just going to call the devil a liar.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: right now, and we’re going to learn how to speak to him; but it’s going to come from that inner release of worship and praise. Maybe you’ve never been baptized in the Holy Spirit, and now is your time for that. Jesus said, Out of your belly, out of your spiritual womb, would flow rivers of living water. 

LARRY: Mm.

SID: Both of you come up. Come on, everyone. What happened to you?

Lady 2: Well, for a while now, I’ve been hearing about open doors, and feeling like I’m standing on the other side of the door waiting to walk through the threshold of what God has for my life. And so I feel like it’s for everyone here. When I was worshipping, I heard the Lord say, I saw myself standing on the threshold of a door. And I was praying in the Spirit, and I felt as if I was asking Him for strength, to go through the door, through the threshold into the next part of my journey. And I heard him say, I’m imparting to you today, tonight the strength of the next leg of your journey to walk through the threshold. So that’s for everyone.

Audience: (clapping)

SID: I like that. I like that.

Lady 3: Well, I’ve been coming here for the past 4 or 5 shows. And every time, I’ve been here, I’ve heard the name, Katherine. And just the last show, I saw that she had some sort of heart disease or a heart clog. And then Julie started playing, and then I saw the whole ├▒ I saw the girl. And she looks like around my age, 14 or 15. And she is suffering from a lot of stress, and it’s like slowly just dissipating. But it’s still there, but it’s still heart disease.

SID: That’s called a ‘Word of Knowledge’ and I believe that this young girl is either in our studio audience or in our television audience. And that’s for you. But the thing that excites me, is may the one man show rest in peace. It’s time for the Body of Messiah to come forward for the greatest move of God’s Spirit in history.

Audience: (clapping)

SID: That’s why you’re being mentored right now.

Lady 4: Mine was a very funny vision, [speaks in tongues]. When we started praying in the Spirit, there was a hole through there. [points towards the talking set] and there was a ladder, and we started praying, and the Lord said, ‘Just continue to pray. Pray, pray, pray.’ And I started seeing a lot of people (starts crying), a lot of my friends and people that I know have said, you know, they are not going to go to heaven. They’re not going to receive the Lord. And everybody, we as we started praying in tongues, we were pulling everybody in the ladder. And as you started saying, let’s pray faster and faster, we started just going all around the world, and we were just pulling everybody out of that ladder, through the roof. It was unbelievable, and I use to work for a Jewish man, about 20 years ago. And then I opened up my eyes because I wanted to laugh, and then I saw him and you. And I was like, ‘Lord, what is that?’ He said, ‘That is Jeff. And you know he’s Jewish, and you know he’s married. But you know he has thought that he’s confused. But he’s not confused. Start praying in the Spirit for him.’ And that is the intercession that you have been doing for that man in Jesus name.

Audience: (clapping)

SID: Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. You see, praying in tongues is the ancient secret to everything in the supernatural. So you see why it’s been diminished in recent years. But, it’s changing. You know why? I was laughing in the Spirit. There were so many people all over the world from this show, that are going to be speaking in supernatural languages. Come forward, please. All of you come forward, please. Thank you.

Man 1: As Julie was playing this last time, I got lost the first time. And, I saw Jesus, and He said, ‘I’m calling you out to speak to the nations.’ And He said, ‘I’m going to give you a deeper understanding of eternal life. I’m going to give you a deeper understanding of how to present this; eternal life to the nations.’ And this afternoon, as we were waiting in line, I ministered to a couple of ladies. I took them deep into that heaven is eternal life. And He told me, ‘I’m going to teach to have a deeper understanding of how it lines up with the Spirit and the soul, and then the body comes together; all in all. And in line today; one lady who couldn’t hear now hears.

LARRY: God has more! We have this, this show is called Something More; why? There’s not more of God to come out of Heaven, but there’s more of God. More of the Holy Spirit Who lives inside of you. That I believe God wants you to experience! So Dr. Booker, can you tell, can you teach us a little bit, just about why is the baptism in the Holy Spirit so important? And just like you and I were talking kind of, off-screen, just tell our viewers why is it so important for them to have a present experience with God, and what that means?

RICHARD: Well God is. Well, we’re living today, not yesterday [laughs], so.

LARRY: Yeah; yeah.

RICHARD: so many times people had an encounter with God, and. and they stop and camp there; they’ve never moved on. But I love the title of this program. More; God always has more.

LARRY: Yeah; yeah.

RICHARD: And well something you said about people reading the Word, and loving the Word.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: I’m a Bible Teacher.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: Nobody loves the Word of God more than I do. But it’s something else, as an author myself, to get past reading somebody’s book, and meet the One who wrote it.

LARRY: Well let me.

RICHARD: Well hallelujah! [slaps desk]

LARRY: I want to inter-. I’m going to [slaps desk] interrupt you.

RICHARD: Woo! I’m getting.

LARRY: because.

RICHARD: Ooh, I’m getting [slaps] excited!

LARRY: (laughing) because I remember.

RICHARD: Woo! [slaps desk]

LARRY: reading your books, and reading your testimony; and. and this really I think this might really minister to some people, so I would like you to address the camera; address our audience. Tell folks what happened when you were actually reading the Word, because you had an encounter with God, through the Bible!

RICHARD: Well absolutely! I mean it starts with the Bible; you know, that’s the written Word of God; but here’s the thing. The. God wants to take His Words off the pages of the Book, and explode them inside.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: of us, so that they come alive inside of us. That’s the experience I had with God in 1974, and it’s kept me going a long time. But I’ve had many with God since then.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: You don’t live in the past, but you do have a past with God. But you bring that past.

LARRY: Mm.

RICHARD: with the. to the present, and you keep going with Him. But God downloaded the whole Bible into my spirit, and it exploded inside me. And we have in our Bible 66 Books, so for me, it was like 66 spiritual bombs going off.

LARRY: (laughs)

RICHARD: inside me. Now Larry, the thing–

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: about it was it wasn’t one bomb, and then you know, they were kind of going off one right after another.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: All went off at the same time.

LARRY: That’s amazing.

RICHARD: And. and those who are viewing, God wants to explode [laughing] His Spirit.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: inside you!

LARRY: Release that Word.

RICHARD: I mean, you know, if you’re tired of [laughing] dragging around, you know; if you need a new energy from God.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: ask the Holy Spirit.

LARRY: Yes.

RICHARD: to come up on you, in His loving, godly, holy way.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: and empower you and fill you with His Spirit, with His presence.

LARRY: Mm.

RICHARD: He always does it in a way that’s consistent with the Word of God, so you don’t have to be afraid.

LARRY: Yes.

RICHARD: of the Holy Spirit. He wants to empower you, to thrust you forward.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: for new and exciting adventures in your walk with God!

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: Amen!

LARRY: Amen.

RICHARD: Just do it! Praise the Lord! [laughs]

LARRY: Yeah. Well it’s interesting; we were just talking about it again. Paul said this; Paul said, Be filled with the Holy Spirit. And what I’ve known about Greek in studying that, it’s actually an ongoing, continuous filling. So for the folks who might be watching and think. and think to themselves, Well I got filled with the Holy Spirit, I got baptized in the Spirit, what would you say? How is there always more of God to be experienced?

RICHARD: Well are you filled with the Holy Spirit right this [laughing] second?

LARRY: Yeah!

RICHARD: That’s what I hope!

LARRY: That’s good; yeah.

KHALIDA:  As best as it could be. We are in love now more than ever before.

AUDIENCE:  Wow, yes, amen, whooo!  (CLAPPING)

SID:  God is so good. All things are possible– I’m going to, I’m going to bless you– And I thought we Jewish believers were pretty wild, but you, you Arabs take the cake! (laughing) Okay, before I close in prayer, are there any of– Keith or Khalida or Faisal, did God show you anything that you want to share, just briefly–

FAISAL:  Just one quick thing. The river here has increased tonight. It went from the ankles to the knees, says the Lord. And even now the depth, the breadth, the length, and the height of the river has increased in your midst and you will see it will go from here. And it will constantly increase. But there has been an increase of God’s river in this place, upon this ministry. And you will know there will be a fresh and ease of the flow of the Spirit, says the Lord. A greater flow of the Spirit upon you and upon the entire team, your staff, your ministry. For the Lord says: “You will be swimming in the river while you are doing your work!” Okay?

AUDIENCE:  Ah, Yes! Whooo-hoooo–.  (CLAPPING)

SID:  But you know what? I believe it’s an impartation to not just our staff, not just our ministry, but our audience and our audience that’s watching this by way of video. –I mean, I believe we are in the last of the last days. And as a result, if it’s not you that God’s going to use for the last great worldwide revival, who’s He going to use? It is you. It’s you! You are His best! You are His best! So the Lord is blessing you right now. The Lord is keeping you, not yesterday, not tomorrow, but right now. The Lord is smiling on you right now. The Lord is gifting you right now. The Lord is surrounding you with His Shalom right now. His Shalom is His completeness. His completeness in your spirit, His completeness in your soul, His completeness in your body right now! In the name that He promises to Moses to put on the Jewish people and is putting on you right now. The name that is above every disease, every fear, every hurt, every problem, every marital difficulty, every job difficulty, every financial difficulty, every depression, it’s got to go. Because the Name is sealed on you. The Name is Yeshua ha Mashiach, Tsidkenu. Jesus the Messiah, our Righteousness! And as the ancient rabbi’s say: all of the promises of all of the ancient Jewish prophets and the New Covenant prophets, they didn’t say that, I added that, and the New Covenant prophets go into the atmosphere when  the Rams’s Horn, the Shofar is blowing.

[SHOFAR IS BLOWN]

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS, CHEERS, SHOUTS)  Hallelujah, Hallelujah

[MUSIC]

BETSY: And I want to share with you how I’m going to lead you because I want you to feel safe in the steps of this as we go through it. We’re just going to say Holy Spirit, and don’t do it now, I’m just going to tell you the steps, Holy Spirit would You take me to a time in my life where I felt shamed and just let that memory let the Holy Spirit direct it, you’re not trying to think up something, you’re not trying to say well I have 5 times which one shall I choose, you’re just letting Him show you the memory. And then I want you just because you can speak to Him as friend to friend, I want you just to share your heart. ‘Lord when I was shamed in this situation these are the things I felt.’ And you can just kind of just speak quietly under your breath. You know ‘Lord I felt angry, I felt confused. I just felt so frightened, I didn’t know what was going on.’ You’re just to say the things that you yourself really felt in that time as that memory comes back to you-

CHESTER: And what you’re doing is you share that as you’re actually passing them on.

BETSY: You’re passing them on as you’re saying and then Lord I want to give you this pain because He said I came to take your grief and sorrow, so we’re going to give that to Him, and then we’re going to ask Him to just show you because we know that He’s always with us. We want to say ‘Lord, would You just show me that You’re there with me in this time where I was shamed.’ And we’re just going to watch and listen, and some of you may see pictures, others of you may hear scripture, you may sense His words to you. We’re not going to put Him in a box- Yeah, you may have a feeling, peace may just come on you, so we’re going to let Him be the one that ministers, and then we’re just going to say thank you, Lord, for Your healing. So Lord, we just come as Your children to a good Father- Betsy gives instruction]: No, they don’t need to repeat, I think actually I’d like- I just ask you to sit down, this takes a little more time and I think you’ll be a little more at rest if you’re seated. And just take a minute, and you know if you’ve got your lap full of stuff put it down and kind of tune out the people around you because this is really between you and Jesus- Betsy continues ministering: Father, just show Your heart to each child, each one of Your children-

[SILENCE AND MEDITATION]

BETSY: I just hear the Father singing a love song to several of you. And it’s especially for those that really didn’t have earthly parents that sang love songs to them, you didn’t have anybody that tucked you in bed at night and told you that you were precious. He’s just singing to you-

[BETSY SINGS]

Child you are more precious than silver, child you are more costly than gold, child you are more beautiful than diamonds, and nothing I desire compares with you. Just let this song settle in your heart. Hear the Father’s heart towards you. Father is just reaching out His arms to you tonight. Lord, we just receive those things that You’ve said that are personal for us. And we thank You, that on this journey of life You will show us more and more and more of Your heart for us. That’s our legacy as Your sons and daughters. In Jesus’ name we pray, amen. And you know the last thing we want to do is we just want to get any oppression, any way the enemy would try to block our life  from just receiving the Father’s fullness. Everything He has. Everything! We don’t want 80%. We don’t want 90%. We want the whole thing! He said we could have life and have it abundantly. And Lord, we’re Your people that want it all. We’re greedy for more. We just want all that You have, Lord. And we know You want us to be greedy. You put that hunger into us. And so tonight we just want to come against every strategy and plan of the devil that would try to steal, kill or destroy and divert us from everything that You have. And Father, we just pray for every family that’s represented here, we pray for success on every job, where we work, and every ministry that’s represented here, and Father we pray for safety as we travel back, and for Your peace that as we lay down tonight our sleep will be sweet, 

and we’ll hear, just continue to hear Your voice, and know that we are safe with the Good Shepherd. In Jesus’ name we pray. 

CHESTER: In Jesus’ name we pray. Amen. God bless you. God bless you.

[MUSIC]

RICHARD:  I’m trying to minister to his spirit but he’s [Philip] is screaming bloody murder, staring me in the face. Later I process what’s going on in his head, ‘Dad, why are you singing, these people are hurting me, get off of me’-

AUDIENCE:  [LAUGHTER]

RICHARD: I don’t know-but my desire is to just minister to his spirit. Little did I know that about 36 or 48 hours later I would be pulling him off my chest laying him on a table and saying, ‘He’s gone.’ Because of the medicines that they had forced us while we were there to give him against our better judgment. I think [advice that was] against the Holy Spirit. Trust the voice of the spirit of God more than you trust any doctor.

AUDIENCE:  Yes. Amen.

RICHARD:  We had grounds for a legal suit and everything, but the Lord said, ‘Do you want him healed or do you want to fund your ministry? I said, ‘I want my son.’ And for the next ten weeks, after God raised him from the dead, I was in the hospital every night and I would stay there and every night I’d get down close to him. And he’s in a drug induced coma, he doesn’t react to hardly anything, I think there were times that he saw angels cause all of a sudden his face would light up and he turned his head and look across the room and I was [thinking], ‘What are you seeing, I wish I could see what you’re seeing – because he’d been forty minutes with Jesus. But I’d get down there and I’d start singing to him. Nurses would come in and I’d sing under my breath but they’d [say], ‘I want to hear’ and I’d sing a little bit louder-

RICHARD: [SINGING] ‘Don’t you know the Father loves you?  Don’t you know how much He cares? Don’t you know He’s thinking of you? Don’t you know He sees you there? He sees right in to every part of you. He sees right in the very heart of you. He loves you like no other could. He loves you like no other would. He sees the hurt, the pain that you’ve been through. And He longs to comfort and rescue you. He loves you like no other could. He loves you like no other would’-    

RICHARD: There he [Philip] was hopeless, helpless according to man’s idea he’d never come out of a coma, he would never talk again, he would never do anything. We never believed that. Stood there over him, prayed over him when he was helpless. I wish I could have taken his place, but I couldn’t. God wants you to know that His love for you, my love for my son, singing over him is a dim reflection, it is nothing compared to his love for you! 

RICHARD: [READS JOHN 3:16]

RICHARD: John was called The Beloved. He grasped the Father’s love. And he writes about it in John. Throughout the Book of John he writes about the Father’s love. Throughout First John he writes-he says, ‘God is love.’ He says it time and time again. God is love. It’s who He is, it’s His character, it’s His DNA. I can’t paint a picture for you of the Father’s love no matter how good I have been, no matter what stories I could tell you about how much I love my kids and how I show it, it is a dim reflection of His love for you. When we’re transformed by that love it does something.

RICHARD:  [READS 1 JOHN 4:16]

RICHARD: He who fears, he who has anxiety, he who has stress has not been made perfect in the Father’s love because anxiety, worry, fear cannot exist when we absolutely are certain that He has got us in his hands then there is nothing that can touch us. And it leaves our head and hits our spirit we got nothing to fear, we got nothing to worry about because my Daddy is a big Daddy, my Daddy can take on any daddy around-

AUDIENCE REACTS

RICHARD: He can take on any devil. There’s places where God has taken me where if I had known where I was going before I got there I wouldn’t have gone. I was in the Volta region of Ghana, and people in Ghana don’t go to the Volta region of Ghana. I was in a village that worships the serpents. It’s the war God of the country, and many consider it the war God of the continent. I didn’t know that. I didn’t know what brought me to [Afiife ??] I didn’t know it was such a cursed town. You can’t drink the water or you’ll die. And-I didn’t realize that its 95 percent idol worshippers. I can’t tell you all the practices because it would defile you mentally to know some of the things that they’d do. But they were cursing me with death curses. Well I’m thankful that I didn’t know that at the beginning. I’ve got these people in robes and they’re doing stuff and I don’t know what they were doing, I’m just preaching, and the pastors [tell me], ‘Everybody in the village is talking about the crusades,’ and I thought, ‘Yeah, because they’ve got the speakers facing out, like you can’t not talk about it, you know, cause everybody hears what’s going on.’ And he then says], ‘You know, when the guys that are wearing these robes are doing this,’ [as if I haven’t noticed] ‘Well, most people die when they do that-they do a lot of rituals before they do that type of witchcraft, and-people usually die-‘  

AUDIENCE:  [LAUGHS]

RICHARD: Okay-.And he said, ‘Oh, but don’t worry. Everybody in town says your witchcraft is more powerful than their witchcraft.’ 

AUDIENCE:  [REACTS WITH HOOTS, PRAISE AND CLAPPING]

SID: You know, Todd, the last guest is a legitimate sign and a wonder. This oil is a sign that makes you wonder, but what’s going on in your congregation is even more outrageous. I mean, you’re a nice Baptist preacher, minding your own business, but you got hungry for God. Were you praying to be hungry or it just happened? How’d that happen?

TODD: Well, back in the day, I was so thirsty for God I said, “Lord, I’ll do whatever you need me to do, whatever you want me to do,” and started investigating the fullness of the power of God, the baptism with the Holy Ghost, and one key element that I had to do was to read my Bible without my denominational glasses on. I took my denominational glasses off and started reading the Bible as if I was saved for the very first time, and started seeing things in the Scriptures that I had never, ever encountered before even though I had read over them dozens, if not hundreds, of times. The Spirit of God began to convince me that the baptism with the Holy Spirit was legitimate and available for all believers today.

SID: A local pastor heard about your hunger. You went to a meeting. You encountered the Spirit of Glory of God, but you got even more than what you were looking for.

TODD: Yeah, I went to that Pentecostal prayer meeting, and the last place that a Baptist pastor should be is in a Pentecostal prayer meeting. I mean, I’m telling you, I had no business being there. One of the gentlemen took his index finger and placed it on my forehead and said, “Be filled with the Holy Spirit.” At that very moment, everything that I had ever preached against, stood against, mocked, and ridiculed, and made fun of, happened to me at that very instant.

SID: But then you had to make a choice. You understood this book without the spiritual lenses of religion, but your congregation didn’t.

TODD: Nope.

SID: What happened?

TODD: Well, my wife and I, we tried to tell as many people as we could. I’ll never forget. One of our services, we had 75 Southern Baptists get baptized with the Holy Ghost at one of our altar services. Momentum was building for us and momentum was building against us. We lasted 10 months and we got the left foot of fellowship, if you will. We started a new congregation and this is where we eventually have encountered the presence and power of God in an unprecedented way at the Christ Fellowship Church in Dawsonville, Georgia.

SID: Tell me about something you had no foundation for. You didn’t think God did anymore, of this vision you had.

TODD: I’m on my platform and I’m walking toward our baptistry. Our baptistry is about 2500 to 3000 gallons. It’s a large baptistry. I’m walking toward it for no reason in particular. I’m just praying. I look at my baptistry and for the first time in my life, I had an open vision. I saw the baptistry, in the natural it’s empty, but in the Spirit it is completely full of water and I saw fire on top of the water. The fire was about two and a half to three feet wide from the front to the very back. Now, this happened in about eight to 10 seconds. As soon as it was over, the Lord spoke to my heart and He said, “Todd, I’m going to baptize people in Holy Spirit fire.”

SID: Tell me about, I think her name was Lorraine.

TODD: She was diagnosed with cancer in June and had a PET scan on June the 27th that showed over 50 cancerous lesions in her body.

SID: I didn’t know this, but the bigger black [areas] are organs, the smaller are the tumors.

TODD: Right. There are 50 small lesions, cancerous lesions, throughout her body in her bones. She heard what God was doing at Christ Fellowship, Dawsonville, Georgia, and said, “I’m going to drive up there.” She came and she waited in line. I don’t know how many hours she waited to be baptized, but she came into the baptismal waters and the fire of God touched her, and the very next day she goes to get an additional PET scan and there it is on the screen, I believe it is, that all 50 cancerous lesions have been healed in Jesus’ name.

SID: Now, that is a documentation, would you agree?

TODD: Right here, two and a half to three inches thick of miracles that have happened in the last year at Christ Fellowship there in Dawsonville. These are not only miracles, but life-change. People that have been addicted to narcotics, to drugs, to meth, to nicotine for decades.

SID: When I was at your church, I saw someone say that their marriage was healed by being baptized. Now, have you seen that?

TODD: Well, what happens is they enter that water, Sid, and the fire of God is there. When their foot hits the water, it’s like a truth serum because you can’t play with God. This is holy. This is not a genie in a bottle. This is not some gimmick that we’re just going to try and see if anything works. When God spoke to my heart and said there’s fire, He says, “I’m going to baptize people with Holy Spirit fire,” He meant business. What we have done in the church for too long is play church. We’ve coddled church. We’ve made church about comfort and sugar, so to speak. You know what I’m saying? We’ve made it about a consumer mindset. The Lord spoke to me, Sid, and I asked Him, “God, why are you using baptism? Why are you baptizing people with Holy Spirit fire in this water and healing people instantly and delivering people instantly that have been under our preaching for decades?” He spoke to my heart very clearly and He said, “Todd, I am coming with vengeance after my bride. I’m coming with vengeance after my bride.”

SID: You have a choice. You’re one of two types of people. You’re not Baptist or Pentecostal, you either have experiential knowledge with God or you don’t. You just have church experience. The truth is there’s no other name given unto men in which we must be saved. All you need to do—with me, as a 30-year-old Jew, that death looked better than life and I didn’t want to die but life was too hard, I reached up and I said, “I give up.” That was what I did. “Jesus, help.” I have to tell you, the glory of God came into my bedroom and that glory—from a sincere heart, say, “Jesus, I’m a sinner. I believe that you died in my place. Come inside of me. Take over my life. I make you Lord.” If you’re already a believer with experiential knowledge, start reading this book without the lenses, without the religious glasses. Take them off. This book does a good job by itself.

SID: Now, an angel woke up my next guest with revelation about the next great move of God’s Spirit, and my guest says the glory shows up now wherever he goes. Be right back.